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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here- with TO it seems that the test scores of admitted students will be skewed much higher because only kids with high test scores will be submitting them, right? And I have heard that Naviance is only as good as how up to date your school admin keeps it, correct? [/quote]
I hope the SATS scores are skewing high and will come back to earth before my 10 & 11th graders apply. The 11th grader is practice testing around 1390 & with a weighted 4.0, and against current college stats, his “safeties” are looking more like super “reaches”. Regarding naviance, the high schools I’m aware of are good at keeping that up to date. [/quote]

I hope so too (for my 11th grader) but realistically the only way that will happen is if more schools (like MIT) revert to non-optional. So many schools have not announced their plans for the fall 2023 application cycle (current juniors) -- BC and Villanova are two that come to mind -- so I'll be curious to see whether they, or schools of similar selectivity, start requiring scores again.[/quote]

Actually, many schools have announced their plans: test optional.

If you're going to take the SAT, just factor in higher scores since only applicants with high scores will submit.

After the SCOTUS bans affirmative action in the upcoming cases, test optional will likely be the norm anyways.

[b]There won't be any clear / definitive advantage to having a high SAT score.[/b] The SAT is already a lower stakes test in today's college admissions environment.
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I agree that the significance of an SAT scores ain't what it used to be by any means.  But as long as the scores submitted by applicants are made public, and are available on the many college related websites, colleges will want those scores to be as high as practical.  (Some people will continue to believe that the higher the average scores, the more selective and prestigious the school.) [b] Thus there will still be value in a strong SAT score.[/b] [/quote]

For a test optional school, how so?

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Test optional is not really test optional. It basically allows the school to do whatever they want without objective criteria. So, if you have some characteristic that the school wants (demographics, a 4.3 40 yard, a great 3pt shot, a father that donated a library), then don't submit tests. If you don't have these things, you better have very high test scores.[/quote]

Does the data bear out your assertion?  At our school, very few kids tested (like 13 of 80) last year.  Full disclosure, it is California, but kids got into good schools outside of the state.[/quote]

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