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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I had two kids attend UVA and both say that they were happy with their advisors whenever they called upon them. Which wasn’t very often. [b] Not everyone needs hand holding. Except, that is, the parents of CTCL students [/b]whose kids couldn’t get into UVA and who are obsessed with justifying their insistence on going the second and third tier private school route. [/quote] Biased much? I went to a school that is on the CTCL list where the students were on their own in different cities and parts of the world on different experiential programs 1/3 of the time in school. [b]Exact opposite of hand-holdin[/b]g and required much more independence than my kid who is at a large university. Regardless, don't know why you had to bring this into the conversation which was about what the advising was like at a particular school. It's not like course registration is some deeply needed independent skill--but good advising can help you finish in 4 years since it's often impossible to know which courses you will need will be offered when at some schools except through advising--and colleges of all sizes can have good or bad advising in this regard. [/quote] This is why I don't like the CTCL marketing scheme but I don't care enough to post about it when there are ongoing fights. We took our SN DS to the CTCL presentation at a hotel in Maryland years ago and it was what it is - a bunch of mid-level struggling colleges which pay to belong to this traveling consortium that claims "to change lives" - well it's clever but not true. I went to one of those slacs now more likely to be presented at a CTCL and it wasn't life changing or really anything special. No matter how small the classes are, how good the profs are, how good the marketing is, how much money you are paying, it still comes down to WHAT IS YOUR KID GOING TO DO WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY? If they are going to party and drink - well there's your answer. If they aren't going to do the reading and will be passive in class - then there's your answer. If they are going to be angry about every and protest at every turn - then there's your answer. Or! are they going to grab ahold of the $80K a year opportunity and really dig in and read and try to master the material and be active in class and LEARN? to read and to write? And to engage with the professors? Who will write their letters of recommendation? If the latter, then any SLAC or university will do because the child will succeed anywhere. If in the other groups, CTCL isn't going to make a bit of difference but YRMV.[/quote]
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