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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.cmu.edu/ira/CDS/pdf/cds_2021_22/cds2021-c-first-time-first-year-admissions.pdf

19878 boys applied, 2122 admitted = 10.7%
13018 girls applied, 2331 admitted = 17.9%

Stop crying about how they don’t want girls.[/quote]

Are you even reading what is being said in this thread? NO-ONE said CMU doesn't want girls. Everyone agrees CMU tries to have the 50-50 ratio. All the PP said was CMU seem to pick girls who are academically STRONG but leave out those who are STRONGER. It's not hard to understand.[/quote]

Such claims are stupid, and only reflect the butthurt of people whose kid got denied. 89% of the kids admitted are in the top tenth of their class,  45% had a 4.0 gpa, 94% had SAT over 1400. They are not rejecting stronger kids. What is happening is the same thing that happens at every very selective school - for every strongly qualified applicant admitted, a large number of strongly qualified kids are rejected. What should not be hard to understand is this: the applicants who were admitted were stronger [i]in some way that was important to the admissions committee[/i] than the applicants who were rejected. Better extracurriculars, less one-dimensional, more interesting essay, better high school, any number of other factors come into play when you're comparing two kids with a 3.8 to 4.0 gpa and SAT scores over 1400.[/quote]

My kid got waitlisted in RD from TJ and eventually rejected. 1590 SAT (one sitting), &gt;4.6 GPA, Female, TJ, not one-dimensional at all, several national level awards. I am definitely not going to buy your &quot;Better extracurriculars, less one-dimensional, more interesting essay, better high school, any number of other factors come into play when you're comparing two kids with a 3.8 to 4.0 gpa and SAT scores over 1400.&quot;[/quote]

You are making my point for me - rejected mom is butthurt, and is casting around for spurious reasons it was "unfair".

CM, like any other very selective school, is evaluating [i]thousands [/i]of kids just like yours, all of whom have great test scores and grades. For every kid who got accepted, there were five kids [i]just like yours[/i] who got rejected. They had to make fine distinctions between very similar applicants, and clearly they found another kid stronger than your kid. You will never know their reasons for that decisions, but they were certainly not saying "we don't want high-achieving girls" as stupid people in this thread are claiming.

I totally understand that [i]you [/i]don't think your kid is less one-dimensional and interesting than other kids, but they did.[/quote]

I dont care how you frame it - "butthurt" or whatever nonsense. As you yourself said "You will never know their reasons for that decisions", so saying " one-dimensional and uninteresting than other kids" is just plain stupid.  
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It's much less stupid than your argument that "they excluded my daughter because they are deliberately excluding academically stronger girls in favor of academically weaker girls for some inexplicable reason".

The facts speak for themselves. Your kid didn't get in because the committee found the totality of her application less strong than that of the kids they admitted. Your kid was not one of the 2331 strongest applicants out of 13,018 applicants. Your kid may not even have been in the top 17.9% even on purely academic grounds.[/quote]

First of all, I am not the poster who said CMU doesn't take academically stronger girls. Second, my daughter is the not the only one who got rejected. There were several other boys & girls with excellent academic & extra-curriculars rejected by CMU. Those who got in DO NOT exhibit anything better by any measure. Do you even have a kid at TJ? [/quote]
NP here. My very high stats TJ DD was waitlisted by CMU this year. I just asked her if her classmates who were accepted are stronger. She said that several of her friends are going to CMU, and they are strong but she doesn't want to compare them to herself and say anything negative about them - because they are her friends. With regard to other classmates who were accepted and are not her friends, she doesn't know enough about them to perform any meaningful comparison. I wonder how you know enough information in order to compare them to your daughter. Admission results are a lottery. I'm sure your DD was accepted by other great colleges where some of her strong classmates were rejected. [/quote]

I am not the PP, but I have a DC in high school and he knows enough about his friends - their accomplishments, ECs, strengths are not at all secrets.. except my DC wouldn't know if they extrapolated anything in their essays.  Also, the PP didn't say anything negative about those who got in. [/quote] Your DC knows something about his friends but definitely not everything. I had hard times keeping track of my own DD’s accomplishments, she participated in so many activities and competitions. Can’t imagine also counting her classmates’ accomplishments in order to compare who is “stronger”. [/quote]

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