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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] you are incorrect.... a visit to both school while in session should show that these are two very different schools.[/quote] No, you're incorrect because you misunderstood my point. No one is contesting that the two schools have some significant differences -- indeed, the data you cite was in an earlier posting of mine. What is ridiculous and offensive is to tell the OP that there's something defective or ill-researched in a student (or their parents) considering or even applying to both. A student doesn't have to decide until accepted and sending in a deposit whether they would prefer a school with Greek life or not, or an urban or rural setting, or a large or small school. It's even possible that all of these would be secondary or even irrelevant considerations for the student. Students aren't locked into the same binary divisions of the world as DCUM commenters. And btw, if youre going to deal with with stereotypes about two schools, maybe a fairer way to do it is to not draw from unsubstantiated quasi-pejoratives about one school and press releases from another. On Unigo a Bates student describes their image as "hippies with trust funds. All white student body. Everyone smokes pot" -- is that what you meant by "egalitarian and community minded"? This DCUM myth that "Colgate is mostly for finance wannabes" is a silly and misleading untruth that has taken on a life of its own through endless repetition here. Colgate doesn't have a finance or business major. It does have an Economics major, that draws about 12 percent of graduating seniors. Which is about the same percentage as major in Political Science. And is a little less than major in the other Social Sciences (education, sociology, geography, history -- typical breeding grounds for finance bros, right?). Only about half as many as major in the Natural Sciences, and only about half as many as major in the Arts and Humanities (such as English, Philosophy and Religion, foreign languages and art history). And about the same percentage as those who major in Colgate's "University Studies" programs (environmental, regional and gender studies - the direct pathway to Goldman Sachs...). Colgate students may marginally skew more toward finance sector jobs (or toward employment generally) than students at some other SLACs, but certainly not to the exclusion of all else, as a quick survey of recent graduates' employers and graduate schools proves. I actually have no person connection to Colgate, except for having visited repeatedly and knowing a number of (non-finance!) alums who went there and really valued the experience. But it bugs me to see inquiring posters directed away from an excellent institution of higher education because of a weird DCUM cyber-bullying echo chamber about Colgate. [/quote] Financial services industry and investment banks recruit and hire many non-finance majors and non-business majors. They tend to look for hard-working intelligent college graduates. Certainly economics majors, math majors, CS, majors and liberal arts majors are hired into these sectors. Feel free to peruse Colgates website for employment outcomes first job destinations. Obviously, we disagree about whether or not Colgate and Bates have very different campus cultures. On this point, I think it best that we agree to disagree as the purpose of this thread is to help the OP--not to argue. I appreciate & respect your input, but we differ on some points.[/quote]
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