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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let’s get real. The only reason to CIO is to support parents’ sanity, livelihood, marital relationship, etc. It doesn’t help children sleep more or better—that’s delusion parents use to justify their choice. Happens to be the same reasoning people used when spanking kids “for their own good”. They too believed it was important for establishing boundaries, learning to self-regulate, etc.

Any infant who is on a good schedule, gets enough sunlight early and has a caregiver willing to work with the child’s clock rather than their own (yes that usually means rocking and soothing them to sleep for several months) will get enough sleep. Any outliers are ill—the last kids who should be left to cry [/quote]

CIO was developed as a "method" in order to facilitate the way we raise kids in the US -- dual income families, minimal family or community support. Babies are expected to get on adult schedules as quickly as possible because there is such limited accommodation for children.

In countries with sufficient parental leave and more support for young families, CIO is not a thing because it's not necessary. Even when both parents work, there is often extended family or communal support that enables the parents to work. Or families work alternate schedules. The idea that a couple will get their child STTN by month 2 or 3 so that the parents can get uninterrupted sleep without the assistance of extended family and then return to pre-baby schedules at work, is a uniquely American phenomenon.

Go ask people in other societies about Ferber or CIO or any of this. They don't know what you are talking about. Babies don't need to be "trained" to sleep. It's just in the country we train them to function as much like adults as possible to accommodate a culture that does not accommodate children or families but expects them to accommodate everyone else.[/quote]

Ha!  My German family recommended CIO to me before I ever considered it myself. [/quote]

Lots of Europeans have adopted American parenting philosophies. Not incidentally, this has happened as European countries have adopted more American-style capitalism, with fewer worker protections and more pressure on workers to be productive in a global economy. Your German family would not have recommended this 20 years ago -- they wouldn't know what it was and they would have considered it cruel and unnatural.[/quote]

Who cares?  Why have your kid up all night for months and possibly even years when it’s unnecessary?  That’s great that so many Europeans stay up all night with their crying kids, but I’m not interested in that.  There is absolutely NO benefit to my kid staying up all night.  I much prefer the American method as you claim of CIO and then my entire family gets good quality sleep.  ‘Merica!  [/quote]

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