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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Walls vs TJ: Apples and Oranges

Walls was always diverse, including with the test. Dropping the test has done nothing to increase diversity...just swapped out less qualified white kids.  [/quote]

^^This. Walls has always courted  students of color and understandably so even if they skew more affluent/UMC.  Unlike Banneker Walls has virtually no economically disadvantaged students. The most qualified white students used to have a reasonable shot with the test over other white students.  Now it's a total crapshoot. [/quote]

From what I understand, Walls was majority black before the admission test was instituted.  It's no crapshoot. Top GPAs and interview, plain and simple. You may not like it but it's pretty clear.[/quote]

An interview is the MOST subjective way to evaluate 8th graders.  And having kids who conducted the interview process, yes, it's a total crapshoot.

Add to that, a GPA coming out of certain middle schools is not equivalent to a GPA coming out of other middle schools (e.g. Jefferson vs. BASIS).

At least a test sets a certain universal academic standard that students must meet in order to gain admission. [/quote]

Equating GPAs and schools is like comparing teachers-one harder than the other for the same subject. [b]No way to fix that.[/b] We went thru the process as well as multiple private school interviews. There wasn't much difference besides the essay's required from privates. I do think testing should be a component but not the dominant one. The interview does help distinguish a kid that wants to attend vs parents that wants it for the kid.  That's a complaint I've heard from a lot of educators. Kids even bomb things on purpose. [/quote]

Every college in America has fixed this. They know what a grade means from one school vs another. It is the reason that maybe 1 or 2 kids in most high schools gain admission to an Ivy and 15 might from an elite prep school or an elite application HS.[/quote]

Every college in American has resources far beyond an admissions based public school.  It’s a silly comparison to make.[/quote]

But they're also pulling from a much bigger set of schools. It would not be difficult to track how students from particular middle schools in DC do in high school and use that in admissions. I don't think it's a good idea - just use a test, it's more transparent and fair - but that's not a resources issue. [/quote]

It absolutely is a resource issue.  Someone has to go through and determine which classes a student took at a particular middle school and how that has tracked over the years and how one gpa compares to another.[/quote]

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