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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]christianity is the third biggest threat to this country after climate change and republicans. I find them particularly reprehensible and disgusting. [/quote] +1 Anyone trying to force their religious beliefs on me and my family - and my country - is a vile POS. [/quote] What are you talking about? You have freedom of religion. You are not oppressed Mormons and JW's have a right to recruit new members, as do country clubs and gyms [/quote] Sure.. they just don't have a right to form a government that would govern us all - those who don't belong and don't want to belong to their religion. There is this pesky thing: separation of church and state. When government starts enforcing the laws of some specific religion.. what happens to all other citizens who aren't its loyal followers? They lose their freedoms. [/quote] What you are referring to is off topic Nobody is banning or restricting your freedom to practice your religion A law about abortion has nothing to do with religios freedoms. Perhaps what you are referring to is the influence of religion in today's American politics. That is very different from having a kaxk of religious freedom. Religious freedom was curbed in Soviet union. People had to congregate in secret, people were imprisoned for being Sunday school teachers. Secret police tried to crack down on babtisms, you lost your job if it was found out you believed in God [/quote] You are, actually forcing your religion on everyone else. My religion doesn’t have problems with abortion. The wing nut justices are establishing a state religion - which was their goal and you know it. [/quote] This. PP says that people are free to practice their religions, what if someone's religion has different rules and tenets with respect to reproduction? What if one is an atheist/agnostic? If you don't hold a sincere belief that life begins at conception will you be exempt from draconian anti-abortion laws? Not really in the states where abortion will be outlawed. Even if in their mind they ARE NOT murdering the baby when they get an abortion, they are still persecuted as criminals because their state government decides so. Do they decide based on objective facts of reality where a lot of embryos are non viable, where we don't have tech to incubate babies before 20 weeks, where we cannot fix severe genetic defects that would kill the baby upon birth or a few painful years later? No, these decisions are based on the tenets of some specific religious group, and hence, everyone in this state regardless of objective reality or their religious beliefs has to obey these rules. [/quote] Then for goodness sake, use birth control I still do not see how your health is an issue of religious freedom. You are not loosing your right to practice any religion You are just living under a law you do not believe agrees with your religion. There are plenty of laws that do not match religion directly[/quote] You don't get it. Abortion is being made illegal because religious extremists believe life begins at conception. That is using the state to enforce specific religious beliefs on others. The previous abortion laws that looked at the viability of the fetus were at least grounded in science or at least were not primarily religious.[/quote]
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