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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This list is NONSENSE. [b]I am an immigrant educated in Britain (Oxbridge), with many years in Asia[/b], and there is NO WAY that Chinese University of Hong Kong, or EPFL, or Kyoto University, NUS (Singapore) or McGill are better than the top schools in the US (including SLACs)! The students in these universities want to come to the US for a better education not the other way around.

This is just a list put together to try to be "globally representative" and fails to capture the true academic and educational experience of US universities.

We sent our kids to US schools even though our kids got some of these universities. There is simply no comparison to the educational experience in the US.   [/quote]

"Try to be globally representative"? Well, this list is an "Alphabetical Rankings Lists 2021 (establishments from Top 50 rankings which appeared on 2 or more lists)" (read from the actual webpage). It makes perfect sense and has nothing to do with the educational experience anywhere. Metrics of these rankings can always be questioned but it seems this list is still representative of Top 50.

"The students in these universities want to come to the US for a better education not the other way around"? You may believe so. The price tag attached to the "true academic and educational experience of US universities" is ridiculous for undergrad while you may get on par in other parts of the world for a fraction of the price. With no handholding once you join - your DC is treated as an adult from Day 1. Experiences are just different.     
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The ones who cannot afford will be given financial aid and the ones who can afford it have more money that you and I can imagine. Why do you think US universities love the Chinese from China and Hong Kong? [/quote]

Sure. You just proved my point exactly :) International students represent at most 10% of an undergrad class. Most US universities on this list are need aware - thus for both most US and international applicants, they actually need to be able to afford such institutions. So much for "holistic" approach. While most universities abroad on the same list do first consider academics - and cost almost half the price if not less. Oh right -I can hear from here that students from these universities abroad would not be able to be admitted in the US as they are not the "same caliber".  Again, this is just a matter of different approaches. By the way I am international and have been living in the US for a while. My DCs have been admitted on several colleges/ universities on the list. Tuitions fully covered by our companies even though we could afford. DCs still chose abroad over US for undergrad for good reasons. One is now doing grad school in the US. The mix of both works well for them.

I am just reacting to the total lack of respect for what is outside the US, considered as "less than..." while it is just different. Everybody has to consider their own trajectory and see where they see themselves after they graduate. Your playground may stop at the borders of your own country or you can push them and consider the world. Not everybody considers that 4 years on an American campus is the panacea, regardless of the brand name. 
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