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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery. [/quote]

Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves

The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals

So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355.  Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure.  Other SAT scores:

George Bush:  Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton:  Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken:  Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020

Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270

Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
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These people are old what is your point? (except for David Hogg). George Bush and John Kerry went to NE boarding schools where they literally could just sign up for Yale like you were signing up for rec soccer. Al Franken went to a prep school in Minnesota that also would have made Ivy admissions extremely easy. I assume Bill Clinton was top of his class to be able to get into Georgetown with scholarships. His SAT was solid (especially coming from a public school in Arkansas). None of these (except David Hogg) have any bearing on Ivy league admissions for today's seniors.[/quote]

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