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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is an earlier thread on W& M. I don’t disagree that it is in a worse position than a generation ago.  But I think it has unique attributes that could save it.  First, I think the history and tradition can’t be replaced (oldest academic building in the US) and lots of kids are looking for that sweet spot size in a temperate climate.  Plus, close to DC/still on the east coast corridor.  And, you still need good stats to get in (much better than Miami of Ohio).

I think the Commonwealth should allow it to take more OOS kids and I think you could compete with midsize schools, either Notre Dame/Vandy/Northwestern/Tulane/BC or bigger SLACs such as Middlebury or Bowdoin.  They should lean in to the teaching college/liberal arts curriculum and really focus on grad school outcomes etc.

The top 25 are really hard to be admitted to these days.  Only follows that 25-50 should get the kids who get shut out of the top but are still impressive.

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Miami also has an impressive history. It is the oldest college west of the Ohio river, established by an Act of Congress signed by George Washington. Both Miami and W&M are similar in that they are both old, government-chartered, liberal-arts focused, private colleges that later became public after financial struggles but still attracted the wealthy due to it's size and history, as opposed to the huge publics founded based on technical/agricultural training.

The state of Virginia is not going to allow W&M to take more OOS students. If anything, pressure from parents will force it to move in the other direction, along with UVA: taking more in-state applicants. There's already talk of this. Both schools have a lower in-state/out-of-state ratio than other publics at 66% in-state, with UNC being 82%+, UT Austin being 75%+, UC's now becoming 75-90%+ after parental pressure.[/quote]

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