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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are you all annoyed at the vaccine approval process when you need to be mad at the CDC and local authorities who recommended and imposed unwarranted restrictions on children? It was stupid to do it before vaccines were available and it’s insane now the actual vulnerable population (adults) has been vaccinated and the restrictions have been lifted on them. The vaccine trials are just proving what we knew already — children were never at risk. [/quote] I am. I’ve wrote countless emails. No one cares. Meanwhile our daycare (and likely the other parents there) thinks I’m a horrible parent for not continuing to mask my 3yo “until they can be protected.”[/quote] Have you ever considered maybe you are wrong? Its not so much the children that are at risk but the adults they live with.[/quote] If a vaccinated adult member of the house of is that vulnerable, group childcare is probably not the appropriate setting for their child. [/quote] This, plus: 1. Masks on 3 year olds don't work (show me the data if you want to disagree), and 2. Vaccines don't prevent mild infections and transmission.[/quote] +1. [b]Of the studies I’ve seen, at best masking reduced transmission by ~25% in school settings.[/b] Not daycare settings, where the kids are taking their masks off more often and don’t generally wear them as well. Even if that 25% reduction was similar in daycare settings, you could argue while that still may be worthwhile at a community level, that’s not going to be enough of a risk reduction for most truly vulnerable families. The families I know IRL that have significant risks have not returned to daycare. Some have kids in virtual school, another sent their kindergartner in person this year but the kid wears a KN95 at all times and the parents got permission for them to eat lunch outside every day (outside lunch is generally on a rotation). [/quote] Have you seen the recent studies from Spain and Finland? They are better (less confounded) than anything this country has put out, and they show zero effect from school mask mandates.[/quote] Yes- that’s why I said “at best”. [/quote]
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