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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a reasonable observer, I cannot conclude that the prayer was not officially endorsed. Sounds like OP agrees. [/quote] A supervisor leading prayer is not in and of itself an official endorsement. Read that entire link to understand the concept. Personally I would never lead or participate in prayer in the workplace because it's just a line I'm not comfortable crossing, but it's really hard to see in this situation that "Come to brunch" + supervisor-led prayer = official endorsement of religion.[/quote] I DID read the entire link. Just because I don't agree with you or have the same perspective on how these rules should be interpreted in practice does not mean that I have not done my homework here. The rules indicate that the burden is on the praying people to make it absolutely clear that under no circumstance, someone would reasonably assume that the prayer/beliefs are officially endorsed. Regardless, the employees used government resources (time, and maybe funding for the food) to proselytize. [/quote] Prayer ? proselytizing. Plus, the point wasn't even a prayer meeting (which is actually allowed on say, lunch breaks and in government spaces), but a brunch. And proselytization in the workplace is NOT actually prohibited in and of itself (see quote below) though as the link indicates, repeated attempts at proselytizing ("convert or go to Hell!" or "Come to church!") after being asked to stop can be harassment. I am curious however whether the food was paid for or the employee brought it in for free. [quote]Employees are permitted to engage in religious expression directed at fellow employees, and may even attempt to persuade fellow employees of the correctness of their religious views, to the same extent as those employees may engage in comparable speech not involving religion. Some religions encourage adherents to spread the faith at every opportunity, a duty that can encompass the adherent's workplace. As a general matter, proselytizing is as entitled to constitutional protection as any other form of speech -- as long as a reasonable observer would not interpret the expression as government endorsement of religion.[/quote] [/quote]
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