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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does anyone know of a good lawyer to follow on Twitter about the abortion fight? I follow Marc Elias for info on voting rights lawsuits and it makes me feel so much better to hear from someone "in the trenches" actually doing something. Anyone similar for abortion lawsuits?[/quote]
Imani Gandy (though she does insist on using the tedious “pregnant people”) https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor and Jessica Mason Pieklo https://twitter.com/Hegemommy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor[/quote]

At first I found “pregnant people” tedious, but a shocking number on the right wing actually need reminders that cis/straight women are, in fact, people, as opposed to hosts for the glorious, God-sustained fetus. To say nothing of the folks that don’t identify as women. So I’m ok with it. Pregnant humans, citizens that are pregnant, humans that are actively sustaining potential humans by their blood and organs, whatever it takes. [/quote]

Potential human? A human is a human. Nothing on earth changes from non-human to human. [/quote]

No. Stop it.

It is not equal to the women carrying it.

WOMEN FIRST![/quote]

all humans are equal [/quote]

Nothing is human until it is born. If it can't survive on its own it is not human.[/quote]

A 6 month old baby is born and can’t survive on his or her own. A born toddler or preschool child is born but can’t survive on his or her own. Apparently according to dcum baby killers, those children aren’t human.

A baby inside it’s mom is a human in early stages of development. Thread calling people monsters is really monsters openly admitting they don’t feel babies aren’t human and are ok with killing them. Sick people here.

Adult humans on life support can’t survive on his or her own, do they lose the human classification during that time? What about children that mature into adults but are born with physical or mental disabilities and will never be able to care for themselves? Are they human?

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You are just being purposely stupid.

If it can't live without a host, by definition it is a parasite. I am not required to give over my body to anyone else for it to survive.

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Calling the preborn parasites reveals a lack of scientific understanding.

First, the fetus is the same type of organism as the mother. Parasites are different organisms which latch on to another species, causing it harm.

Second, parasites are not where they belong, but the preborn child is precisely where it is supposed to be. The natural changes that take place in the woman’s body to make room for this new little human do not damage her body. Although there may be challenges in being pregnant, they are in no way legitimately comparable to the damage and harm a parasite does to another organism.

For many years, it was thought that pregnant women have suppressed immune function, but a review paper published by an OBGYN specializing in Reproductive Immunology discusses how this dated viewpoint is not scientifically correct.

Additionally, fetal stem cells are known to travel to sites of damage or injury in the mother, and mothers with a weakened heart, for example, get fetal stem cells which travel to their hearts and turn into cardiac cells, helping strengthen the mother’s heart.

In contrast, the parasitic latching on to another organism does not help the host and there is no mutual sharing of benefits.

Finally, the relationship of the preborn to the mother is a healthy, beneficial, and natural one. That is not true of a parasitic relationship.

As Dr. Staff aptly points out, “It all boils down to the fact that parent and child have a common goal: the child’s survival. Host and parasite, on the other hand, have a fundamental disagreement about the desirability of the parasite’s survival.”

Speaking about parasites, the Center for Disease Control makes a notable distinction between the preborn and parasites stating “Pregnant women often need special consideration when being treated for parasitic diseases in order to avoid harm to the fetus, especially during the first trimester.”

Really should understand basic science if you are going to use it to try to boost your optics when killing babies. Also, having a difficult or challenging pregnancy doesn’t give you a free pass to kill babies. [/quote]

As a prolife person, what do you think of proposed bill in MO to ban abortion even for ectopic pregnancy? [/quote]

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