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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The point is to give highly able kids the opportunity for enrichment. Many of the highest performing kids already had that, which is why they were high in performance. But, what if the kids who didn't have A++ and Dr. Li and parents who were in academia, kids who demonstrated they were gifted and highly able but who didn't have the enrichment that some kids already had, what if these kids were able to get in? [b]Frankly, this county needs more seats. But, parents who enrich have got to stop assuming their kid "deserves" a magnet space more than a kid who scored a few points below.[/b] Lottery + threshold is not ideal but the best way to accomplish that I suppose.[/quote]
Why does a kid who didn't try hard to get in deserve to get in anymore than a kid who did try hard to get in?  Also, not every kid who got in went to Dr Li's.  Should they be penalized because of their skin color being associated with "prepping"?[/quote]

The PP made a valid point. I don't know why you're bringing up "skin color."[/quote]
You are being disingenuous when you claim it's not about "skin color" when the majority of people on here who are fine with discriminatory practices claim that Asian Americans students get in because they "prep" and go to Dr Li's classes.

[b]So, answer the question:   Why does a kid who didn't try hard to get in deserve to get in anymore than a kid who did try hard to get in?

A student who not only shows academic talent but who tries hard should actually be more challenged than a kid who doesn't want to try hard.[/b]

My kid is in a team sport, but isn't good at it, but doesn't want to practice to get better.   Yesterday, my kid didn't get to play a whole lot and complained about it. I told DC that if they wanted more playing time they need to show that they are trying hard and need to practice more.  Silence.  Why should my DC get more playing time if DC isn't wiling to put in the effort?

I apply that to all areas in life. Why should you get anything if you aren't willing to work for it?   I grew up lower income to immigrant parents and had to work for everything I have.

Sure, it would be awesome if MCPS could open more seats to magnets, but MCPS isn't doing that. What they are doing, and what many so-called progressive liberals are supporting, is using a policy that disadvantages one group over another.

And frankly, the same groups that MCPS and uber liberals are trying to push into magnets have a large achievement gap. No amount of pushing the kids to magents is going to close that gap.  MCPS and uber liberals should focus on closing the achievement gap rather than raising URM representation in magnets by a couple of percentage points.

And if you say, "These kids aren't a monolith, they should be treated as individuals".. blah blah blah, well then you're a hypocrite because you seem to have no problem treating all Asian Americans as a monolith.[/quote]

Your assumption that you know which kids "try hard" and which kids do not is ridiculous.[/quote]

+1 How do you know which kids are trying hard? And just because you value hard work does not mean it should be or will be part of the criteria for determining enrichment/acceleration. I would personally argue if a kid has to work super hard, maybe he or she is inherently less gifted than the child who understands concepts with ease. [/quote]
And how do you know which kid has been prepped and tutored?  The vast majority of kids in magnets do have to try hard to do well.[/quote]

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