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[quote=takoma][quote=RantingAtheist][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do liberals not understand they are trying to force their views and their morality on conservatives just as much as conservatives are pushing their views.  The only difference is whether or not you agree with the position taken.[/quote]

And liberals act like because they are basing their opinions not from religion that it is somehow better or correct.[/quote]

Since liberals base their opinions on reason--rather than received moral instruction from a leader, or an arbitrary book--then yes, in a pluralist society founded on secular Enlightenment values the process (if not the outcome) is better, and likely to be more correct. That's not to say that conservatives, working backwards from their desired conclusion, can't induct some rational argument. And when they're successful at reverse-engineering a rational argument, that's likely to be respected, even if we don't agree.

But, no, "Pastor Bob says so" or "it's right here in this book" is no way to run a railroad.[/quote]
Ranter, while I appreciate the humor of your ID, I fear that it enourages the ranting right to equate their religious rants with the reasoned responses of most of us liberals and/or atheists.  I won't claim that there are no rants from our side, but I think the distinction is often lost.

There should be no confusion between reason and rant.  And there should be no confusion between the freedom to exercise religion and the freedom to force one's religion on others.[/quote]

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