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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For all you people who think Norwegian child protective services has a point saving Norway's superior effing child rearing norms, yeah you know jack! They could have sent the parents and the kids back to where they came from, but no they chose instead to keep the children. The Norwegian CPS has not reported the following charges: co sleeping, hand feeding, and emotional disconnect of the mother (probably post-partum depression), nothing else. All of which suggest she needed help rather than a ruling that allows the parents to see the children a few times a YEAR.

You go live in a welfare state run amok. reminds me of Lisbeth Salander character. no wonder the book struck such a chord. Frankly, f--k Norway. It is now my shit-list.[/quote]

Quite the braniac, aren't you? Quoting a character from the only Scandinavian novel you know? (Swedish, by the way).  Really lends you some credibilty. I bet you might even be able to find Norway on a map.  Now please do entertain us all by explaining exactly how that character is even remotely relevant?  Can you name some Indian authors to maintain a balance?   :roll:[/quote]

Since you asked, and without getting all social sciency, the vaunted welfare state in all of Scandinavia imposes significant costs on society. The reason the Dragon Tattoo character strikes a chord is because the state in the Scandinavian societies is out of control in this respect and while Larsson wrote fiction it essentialized the problem and highlighted it. The scholarly literature is replete with serious interrogation of child-related in Northern Europe (do a google search). Of course, these societies rank high on our quality of life measures, but please remember that we measure quality of life mainly with material factors, but new research, for example, on the economics of happiness (google that as well) suggests that material measures are inadequate yardsticks of human welfare. There is a Swedish politician who says that child protective services should separate homeschooled children from their parents--even though Swedish law allows home-schooling.

Rather than be sarcastic, you should consider the possibility that when states overreach they can be brutal and there is little individuals can do. My frustration with Norway is that they chose the worst possible approach--if these people were so antithetical to their superior child-rearing practices, why not send the family home. Why break up the family in this way? I will pass on your bait to name names.

There was some posting on this thread on moral relativism, but I think misapplied. The Norwegian agency displayed moral relativism--no society yanks children from their mothers based on kind of evidence they have provided in this case. And if they do, they must be stopped, for all our sakes. Co-sleeping is a parenting problem?

You should really read more. Start with url OP included: www.facebook.com/immigrantfamilieschld protective services.

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