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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am curious, because I am of an Asian descent and when I was applying to universities 15 years I already knew I would not get into any Ivys due to racial discrimination despite near perfect SAT scores and a full stack of AP 5 scores, national merit and EC. Most of my friends were in the same boat, so we said f it, we just go engineering/STEM at a state school, We'll make more.

The case is even more true today than it was 15 years ago. Moreover, most STEM isn't even competitive today due to the mismatch of supply and demand. Outside of maybe chemical engineering and computer science, the average college salary is lower than that of trades. You make more as a carpenter, electrician or heck even general contractor than most college majors, without going into 6 figures worth of debt.

My grandparents were professors, my parents had masters degrees, I only have an undergrad and I am seriously debating if my kids should even go to college at this point. [b]You don't need a CS degree from Stanford to get a good developer job, a year of coding academies is enough in most cases.[/b][/quote]

Sure, for an entry level job, but without a BS and possible an MS, you will have a ceiling that is COLA - entry level salary. That is fine if you are 18-26, but do you want that same salary when you are 45 or 55?[/quote]

You do.  My husbands friend applied for the same job and company he was in and did not have a degree and was turned down.  He struggles to get jobs.  Hard and good worker.  Husband has no issue.  [/quote]

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