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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Real talk. What portion of the responsibilities do African Americans and their Ancestors have for being pushovers for the previous 500 years or so? While evil actions are not defensible, being an easy target makes evil pretty predictable. Every single weak society in human history has been exploited, assimilated and had their stuff taken and this is not a uniquely black problem. It seems a little disingenuous to ask for a mulligan like the whole world wasn’t/isn’t exploiting Africa and AAs would all be Ivy League millionaire if they were simply treated nicer.  [b]For perspective how many African Americans wish they had been born in Africa? If you proud to be an American then how much was the tragedy of the past simply part of the price of the future? [/b] There is no perfect history and no promise of tranquility, human history is brutal.

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This is where folks need to understand history. Abraham Lincoln actually tried to get Black folks to move back to Africa. There was a commission formed at that time to figure out how to do it. The few Black "leaders" at the time didn't want to this effort to move forward but there were plenty of white leaders that wanted it to happen. Short reason is that Black folks actually have been the strongest believers in the promise of this country. Our role in this society is not to be the weakest, because we are not. Every Black person you see is a survivor. Our role is to make sure America lives up to what it promises. I don't know if you've paid attention to the last few years, but America does not live up to its creed and promises. Facing the past, knowing the hidden histories of all minority (soon to be majority groups) is actually really important. Other countries have been able taken on truth and reconciliation.

My other comment is why do white folks have to make everything a competition and throw in other groups - Asians, Irish, Japanese etc. The thread was about Black people so that's what we were talking about. The bottom line is that this country has invested in othering Black and brown people from anywhere and everywhere and wronging those people with actual laws and policies. If you aren't on board with fixing it fine, but don't continue to perpetuate stereotypes and incite division.[/quote]

I’m not saying it’s right, but I think White folks are trying to do the opposite of othering Black and brown people. They’re trying to point out that, at different points in history, many of our ancestors experienced displacement and oppression. It’s terrible, but that’s the story of the word from the beginning. And arguably America knows much more about the Black experience than the centuries of violent conflict among different Asian ethnic groups, all the way up to today with the Han and the Uighurs. Again, not saying this is the best way to express the concept, but I believe White folks intend to point out commonalities and shared history rather than isolating non-Whites.[/quote]

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