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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Have they ever defined what "experience" means?

I have a first grader starting in FCPS this fall, and we've checked ESL and "multiracial" on her paperwork just because we could.  Our older child was listed as white and a native English speaker simply because we didn't think it'd matter.[/quote]

This is what will happen more and more.

People respond to incentives and “just because we could”.  This is why CRT falls apart incredibly quickly.

If you can pick what gender you are, why can’t you pick what race you are?  Or if you are ESL?  It’s ridiculous and I don’t agree with it, but people will always respond to incentives and policy makers are short sighted to think they can slice and dice without people changing how they classify their children.  [/quote]

policy makers took into account unethical practices by families gaming admission, but didn't realize just how low they will sink? [/quote]

It's not really unethical as much as it is a response to external stimuli.  We are a trilingual household.  FCPS says (in a completely ridiculous move) that a child is ESL if ANYONE in the household speaks a language other than English.  Ergo, I break no rules in ticking an ESL box for my child, and now that there are potential benefits attached to this class, I'll make sure it's ticked.

Same with the multiracial class - my DH is brown as could be and therefore DD is obviously multiracial.  I mean you aren't dealing with a family of two Finns here.[/quote]

They will look at whether a child received ESL services, not at self-identification. As for identifying as multiracial, have at it. Race is not one of the factors being considered. Now, one thing you could do is move into an economically diverse neighborhood and hope for the best. That's probably the most effective way to increase your child's chances of being accepted. Of course, then you would have to be in a school community with actual multiracial families, and put your kids in a classroom with students who receive ELL services. [/quote]

LOL no thank you.  I don't know where you get off thinking that multiracial=poor.  What exactly do you mean by "actual" multiracial families? You aren't multiracial unless you're poor?  Also, why do you call it "economically diverse" when you clearly mean "poor"?

Also, it's not true that race is not considered.  I mean what was that whole to-do about reducing the number of Asians?[/quote]

No one said that multiracial = poor. But the fact remains that single biggest "edge" you an give your kid under the new admissions system is to move to a school that has historically been under-represented at TJ. By sheer coincidence that has nothing to do with American history or government policies, those happen to be areas that are racially and economically diverse. [/quote]

You're backtracking.  This is what you said:

"Now, one thing you could do is move into an economically diverse neighborhood and hope for the best. That's probably the most effective way to increase your child's chances of being accepted. Of course, then you would have to be in a school community with actual multiracial families, and put your kids in a classroom with students who receive ELL services."

What the hell do you mean by "actual multiracial families"? There is a right and a wrong way to be multiracial?

And you don't mean "economically diverse", what you really mean is poor. 
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