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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.[/quote]
Who made statements against Asian American students, and what did they say?[/quote]
They just want to play victim. [/quote]

These are people who fundamentally believe....

....that an admissions process that admits 54% Asians and 20% Black and Latino students....

....is MORE racist than a process that admits 73% Asians and 3% Black and Latino students.

They believe themselves to be better, pure and simple. They genuinely believe that as a class of people, they work harder, care more about education, and just fundamentally are smarter to such a degree that they should have more Asian students in ONE ADMITTED CLASS than TJ has had Black students in its ENTIRE 35-year history.

That is called Asian supremacy.[/quote]

The new system was designed for a more even spread, and it accomplished that goal.  Nobody's disputing that it looks less racist on paper.

Still, that doesn't mean it's not racist.  Imagine that you have a jar of cookies, and you set up a competition where everyone gets a certain fraction of the cookies based on how they perform.  One particular kid is an outsider, so the other kids don't like them very much.  They're confident in themselves, though, so after putting forth a remarkable effort, they manage to earn themselves a majority of the cookies. The other kids realize that the unpopular kid is winning the most, so they all say, "hey, let's just share the cookies evenly!"  Technically fair, but at the same time totally not.[/quote]

Your analogy only makes sense if you subscribe to the belief that Asians work harder and are therefore more deserving. [i]Which is the literal definition of Asian supremacy in this case.[/i]

Unless you know the starting points of everyone else in the sample, you cannot use their current position to measure their level of effort.[/quote]

I am not Asian, but I see their point and for some reason you do not.  All they are asking for is an objective, race-blind admissions process.  They are not claiming superiority, they are simply saying “you had these objective ways of evaluating candidates for years and it worked; but now that it is clear that Asians are dominating those traditional indicators we need to change the process in a manner to allow other candidates to be evaluated higher based on race or income.  They are not saying they have a monopoly on hard work or intelligence, but rather that they are willing to compete on merit and ask that the top candidates be chosen whether they are Asian or not.  If society decides that we do not like that approach anymore, that’s fine.  But at least be honest about it and admit that the admissions process is being redone because the objective metrics led to a student body that society has decided should not exist in a public high school.  Then find a legal and Constitutional way to adjust the process.  But let’s at least concede it’s their success in the process that is driving these changes.[/quote]

Well stated. [/quote]

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