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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Standardized tests are not fair and penalize those from disadvantaged backgrounds and we all know it.[/quote]

Then we need to look again at simply adjusting the scores for socioeconomic status. The huge problem with the current disdain for test scores is that holistic admissions seems to hurt Black kids with straight A’s and SAT scores over 1500. They usually get in some place pretty good, but they don’t have great success with the super selective schools.

I think that’s because activities are much easier for rich kids to game than grades and SAT are, and because colleges use holistic admissions more to pick out full-pay kids than to help Black kids. [/quote] there are almost Zero Black kids with 1500 SAT scores. (Less than 259 in 2006...last time they released this data) A black kid with Straight A AND 1500 can go anywhere they apply. An Asian or white kid...”What’s your hook?  We get 15000 kids with these scores every year. Not good enough.”[/quote]

Go on Chance Me and admissions results sites other than this one.

I don't know what was going on in 2006, but, if you go on the sites where the applicants are, you'll see posts from Black students with unweighted GPAs over 3.8 at tough schools, decent activities (example: student body president; statewide debate prizes) and scores over 1500 every few days. Assuming that 10 percent of great applicants post their stats online, that means that there might be about 500 to 1,000 Black kids per year who, based mainly on stats, are obviously on par with great white students.

Those high-stats Black students seem to do well at getting merit aid from places like, say, the University of Rochester or Creighton, but they don't seem to have fabulous odds of getting into places like Wash. U. or Tufts. They don't seem to have any huge noticeable edge over white unhooked kids when it comes to getting into HYPSM.

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