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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There's five million people in the suburbs. There's <700,000 in DC. Don't you think a whole lot of people in Virginia and Maryland would like a shorter commute? Any new housing built in DC is going to be absorbed by people in the 'burbs. I guess that will open up new places in Gaithersburg and Ashburn and places like that. Yay? [/quote] There are also significantly more jobs in the suburbs than in DC. Most people that live in the suburbs work in the suburbs and there is actually a lot of commuting from DC to the suburbs. [/quote] If this were true, we wouldn't have rush hour in one direction each work day. Yes, there are some jobs in the suburbs, but i don't buy "most." [/quote] Factually false. Tysons is, in substance, the center of the DMV business community. Sorry.[/quote] This is correct and it’s quite fascinating the levels of ignorance people have and yet they try to speak so authoritatively. It’s also very clear that they have never actually commuted during rush hour in the suburbs enough to adequately understand traffic patterns. I personally know several people who commute by car every day from Bethesda/Potomac to Tysons. This person might also be surprised to know that the same number of people enter and exit the Bethesda metro every morning. This DC centric view of our region is so crazy. Pre-COVID there were about 600k civilian jobs in MoCo, 500k in DC and 1.5 million in NoVA. [/quote] Umm no Tyson's is not the center of the DC region's economy by any measure. Tyson's has 28.3 million square feet of office space, which is big by suburban standards. Downtown DC has 150.3 million square feet of office space which is enormous by any measure and the fourth largest in the country. And that number for DC doesn't count the considerable office space just across the Potomac in the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor nor in the Crystal City-Alexandria corridor both of which are much more adjacent and convenient to downtown DC than to Tysons. And that doesn't count Bethesda which for all intents is barely more than a mile from the DC line but is 6 miles from downtown DC but which is also adding a lot of new commercial office space. Now it may well be true that a lot of money is being made in Tyson's but both office markets pre-covid had been adding a lot of new square footage in the previous decade so I'm not even sure Tyson's was gaining at the expense of DC - most of what I've read on this has suggested Tyson's was gaining at the expense of poorly located and aged exurban office space which is now mostly worthless. To the extent that it matters Tysons has about 30,000 residents though many of those folks really live on its fringes - DC has added twice that many people in just the last decade.[/quote] While I appreciate that you like to post in an authoritative voice, you just don't know what you are talking about. It may be worth your while to understand where Fortune 500 companies are HQ'd in our region. I think that will provide you a better understanding of the regional economy. https://wtop.com/business-finance/2018/05/15-dc-area-companies-make-fortune-500-fairfax-county-dominates-list/#:~:text=The%20District%20has%20two%20Fortune,Fannie%20Mae%20and%20Danaher%20Corp.&text=The%20top%205%20companies%20on,UnitedHealth%20Group%20(%24201.2%20billion).[/quote] Are...are you aware that people in the Washington, DC region, which is the capital of the United States, also work for employers other than Fortune 500 companies? (I can think of at least one.) Do you have actual numbers on the *total* workforce in each place, comparatively? [/quote] Honestly, this is just typical of how everything goes with YIMBYs. You are just deeply uninformed, but somehow quite aggressive in your insistence in knowing what you speak of. The fact that you have come to certain conclusions without checking their basis should concern you. I would assume that you likely have been duped by someone with an agenda and therefore, I would suggest that you go back to your sources that shape your views and critique them more closely. DC https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DCLFN MoCo https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MDMONT0LFN NoVA (Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/VAARLI0LFN https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/VAALEX5LFN https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/VAFAIR5LFN [/quote] It is telling that the ill informed YIMBY offers no response. Just so that we are clear, not even including military jobs or Loudon and Prince Williams Cos, which would drive the numbers up sharply. there are more than twice as many civilian jobs in NoVA than in DC. There are 25% more civilian jobs in Montgomery County than DC and there are even 20% more jobs in Prince Georges Co than DC. In addition, and I am sorry for bursting your bubble, but regardless of where anyone lives in this region, there is no substantial difference in commuting time. The average commuting time of someone in DC is 30.8 minutes, for Fairfax VA it is 32.3 minutes and in Montgomery Co it is 34.7 minutes. So the density of DC provides no substantial benefit to its residents in terms of convenience for commuting. Shocker, I know. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B080ACS011001 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B080ACS024031 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B080ACS024033[/quote]
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