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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No...

Best undergraduate, I changed my mind a bit...
1. Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Yale

1b. Columbia, Caltech, Upenn, U Chicago

2. Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth

2b. Brown, Williams, Amherst

3?. Vanderbilt, Cornell, Swarthmore, Rice, Pomona,

3b?. Emory, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Bowdoin, UCLA, UCB, CMU

4. UVA, Umich, Tufts, Wellesley, USC, UNC, CMC

I think 3 and 3b is splitting hairs.

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Upenn shouldn't be 1b because of its relatively weak CAS program, and we should assess these schools as a whole instead of splitting them into their specific programs. UChicago also shouldn't be in that tier because of their extensive use of marketing to unqualified applicants and admitting 80% of their class through two ED rounds—an indication that they're still not a top-choice school for many.

Yale should come before Princeton. MIT should be the last school in the tier as they only focus on STEM.

1. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, MIT

1b. Columbia, Caltech

2. Upenn, Chicago, Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth

2b. Brown, Williams, Amherst

3?. Vanderbilt, Cornell, Swarthmore, Rice, Pomona

3b. Emory, Notre Dame, WashU, Georgetown, Bowdoin, UCLA, UCB, CMU

4. UVA, Umich, Tufts, Wellesley, USC, UNC, CMC

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Good list, maybe i would bump down JHU by one tier[/quote]

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