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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My child wasn't able to take the SAT before applying (she's a senior) to colleges but the high school advisor gave her a list of 10 schools to apply to based on what the counselor knew about the child and the colleges. In addition to not testing, she has not toured any colleges so my child is relying very heavily on the college advisor's knowledge. I suspect that is more important than testing. So far she's been deferred to two and in at one-- waiting to hear back about all the others. One of the deferrals is University of Michigan-- considered a reach for our child. If she gets in and finds it a struggle,she will not be alone. Colleges must anticipate a significant number of those they admitted are not a good fit and must nurture or establish relationships with other colleges that they will respectfully and responsibly transfer overwhelmed students to. There could be a lot of movement both ways. Those kids that missed out for some reason on getting into a higher ranked school will be invited to play in the Big League, while those that are struggling will be advised to try some time in the minors with an understanding that if certain classes are taken and grades improve to a certain point, then they will automatically get back into the original school. For Michigan, perhaps this would be with a community college close by, or perhaps with Michigan State. For an Ivy League school, perhaps it would be with a SLAC in the area. In sum, high school students will depend upon their college counselor to know where to apply. If that advice turns out to be misplaced, colleges will provide a "warm handover" of the student to another school that will be a better fit. [/quote] It's great that this student had high quality college counseling. Most high school students aren't getting that level of advice from their counselors. Maybe at some privates, but not even all of those. Most public high schools don't have the counseling manpower for that, nor the expertise.[/quote] I'm not entirely certain that the counseling was "high quality" Hope so!! To be honest, this is the counselor's first year in the job (but with a more advanced supervisor) and this is a DC public charter. So I took a few colleges off the list of ten and added others. I expect that parents and colleges will pressure high schools to have high quality "post-high school" counselors. I would hope that such counselors would not only track college options but also military and apprenticeship options. Ideally the person would spend 50% of the time researching options outside high school and 50% getting to know the students at the high school. Another poster had earlier in this chain mentioned that colleges would perhaps spend more time recruiting-- not just for sports but for all types of students. Another option-- make sample classes available online. I would love for my kid to be able to virtually audit a class at University of Michigan and compare to a class at Michigan State, for example. Not just lectures, but tests and quiz. [/quote] Unfortunately, what would be ideal is not in the range of possible. Many high school counselors are overloaded with primary responsibilities that dwarf the college question. Moreover, it gives a high school counselor far too much influence over where an individual student applies.[/quote]
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