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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To translate homogenous population for you, they mean no blacks or hispanics because they tend to lower scores.  I must admit when I was in Singapore I did not see many hispanics and blacks.  You never hear homogenous groups when it is whites and Asians because Asians score higher than whites.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Teachers have been brainwashed by NCTM. However, if you gently introduce the brighter ones to better materials, like Singapore Math, they often change their minds.[/quote]

ITA. NCTM is very strange group. I am not sure where their logic comes from. [/quote]

NCTM is a "very strange group"?  Are you a math teacher, professor of math education, or PhD-level mathematician?  Genuinely curious here.  Why do people on this forum think they (or NYC HOLD) know more about math education than the National Council or Teachers of Mathematics or the National Science Foundation?  [/quote]

Don't have the time or patience to go though this now. But riddle me this. The US is doing poorly in math compared to other developed nations, and we have this group, NCTM, which embraces wacky curricula like EDM and influences school boards. Other countries like Israel and Canada have tried our wacky curricula then kicked them out quickly when they realized they stink. Perhaps it is time for NCTM to go overseas and humbly ask what they are doing wrong.  [/quote]

But TIMSS data don't bear out your assumptions, PP.  EDM appeared in 1998, but the first TIMSS data, from 1995, already showed the U.S. lagging far behind other nations in math.  In fact, TIMSS data from 2007 show significant improvement in American students' math achievement compared to other countries.  These gains have appeared despite the use of reform or constructivist curricula such as EDM.  The deficits, as has been historically true, appear related to SES.  It's useful to bear in mind that many of the nations we trail in math achievement behind have significantly more homogeneous populations than we do. Dig into the TIMSS data a bit and this is fairly clear.  
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I am so SICK of this "homogeneous" population rhetoric. Singapore is not "homogeneous" Norway is, but how come Norway does so much worse than Singapore?[/quote][/quote]

ITA. The homogeneous word is essentially synonymous with no blacks or hispanics. Singapore has a mixed population of Chinese and people from Malaysia and India, plus a large immigrant population. [/quote]

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