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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Coming across the JHU thread and it’s clear there are some people unfamiliar with American colleges who think Ivy League = the best. It is worth repeating that there are just as many universities NOT in the Ivy League that are just as good and just as prestigious as the Ivies.

Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Cal Tech, JHU, Northwestern, Duke

If we expand to LACS, add Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona.

If these schools were to just start their own separate academic “league,” they would rival the Ivy League, easily.[/quote]

No one thinks only Ivy League is the best. It's a straw man in your own head. But Ivy League is a real grouping that conveys prestige for lay people. MIT and Stanford  are also widely accepted as being in the top 5 prestigious schools in the country. T5, HYPMS is a real grouping.

The rest of them are all good schools. But they are not prestigious.[/quote]

This is the dumbest comment. T5 or HYPMS is no more a “real grouping” than this list here. And to claim that any of these schools aren’t prestigious is uneducated, by which I mean in academia and among the educated elite in this country, these schools certainly do carry prestige. [/quote]

HYPMS is a real grouping. The list you invented is only in your head and serves no meaningful purpose. You keep changing the subject. You were not talking about prestige among educated elite. For lay people Ivy league has certain prestige even if they may not know all 8.  MIT and Stanford have earned their prestige, and are well known by lay people too.[/quote]

I've never heard of HYPMS outside DCUM/College Confidential. Only the "big three" or the "ivy league" in both official and colloquial contexts. [/quote]

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