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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are 61 pages of how LCPS fails to do many things for Black and Hispanic students such as provide access to higher levels of curriculum and gifted courses. They are disciplined and referred to sped at higher rates . YES that is all impacting their ability to get into an advanced high school later on. Argue with your mom about it. https://www.loudountimes.com/news/virginia-attorney-general-s-office-finds-reasonable-cause-of-discrimination-within-loudoun-county-public-schools/article_1fb1d100-2b4a-11eb-b326-f79c30dc79b2.html[/quote]

Referred to SPED at a higher rate? That's the first time I've heard that. And why would that be bad? If there is a learning disability, the school would identify it through that process and provide needed services. If there's no disability, no services.

You aren't honestly saying that receiving special ed services is somehow a negative, or negatively impacts a child's progress later in school, are you? Because it's quite the opposite, and plenty of kids who receive those services are highly intelligent, participate and succeed later on in AP classes.[/quote]

These students do not always have learning disabilities or SN. They are referred for behaviors. This has been proven to be part of the school to prison pipeline for Black and Hispanic students. [/quote]

Oh give me a break. You think that getting referred to SN for behavior issues leads to prison?!?! You OBVIOUSLY have no idea how SN referrals and evaluations work. Evaluations are done by licensed clinical psychologists and there is absolutely no motivation to wrongfully identify a disability that isn't present. In fact, if anything, there is an incentive for the school to avoid identifying disabilities as they are then required to do so much more work and spend a ton of money providing resources to the student that then HELPS the student. Go read the SNs boards and you will see countless parents lamenting that their child's school did not agree to evaluate their child. You've got it wrong, on all counts.

The head of the Special Needs department for all of Loudoun County is a highly qualified African American woman, by the way. If there were systemic issues along the lines of what you are saying, I would think she'd be all over it.[/quote]

I'll add that receiving special needs services grants the student access to things like specialized instruction, one-on-one instruction, reading groups, accommodations like extra time on tests, teacher's notes, and a whole host of other possible services that BENEFIT the student. If a student doesn't have a disability, the referral goes nowhere and the student receives no services, just like before. So what you are claiming is so far-fetched and ridiculous, it's almost laughable. If someone has convinced you otherwise, it is someone with little to no experience with special needs and you, my friend, have been fooled.[/quote]

It isn’t. LCPS has released their own discipline data. Students with disabilities are disciplined at higher rates than students without disabilities. Black and Hispanic students are disciplined at much higher rates than white and Asian students. This is literally in the data. And there are whole initiatives to address these inequities because THEY FACTUALLY harm marginalized students and lead to poorer educational outcomes for them, higher rates of dropout, higher rates of being referred to youth detention center, etc. If you are a student who is perceived as “acting up” and you receive an IEP for behaviors where the only goals are behavior modifications, you have been sent on a VERY different and more challenging academic track from an early age. Even students who have documented learning disabilities do not have the same outcomes across races even if they receive special education services. This is across our entire education system, not just Loudoun, because the education system as it is DESIGNED is fundamentally inequitable. [/quote]

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