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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thank you to all who offered suggestions.  We will work harder.  We had a trainer come to our yard at the beginning and that gave us all the basic commands.  He is a pretty good loose leash walker and we continue to practice that skill.  A group puppy class we took was all the same basic commands and sort of a waste.  I would be up for puppy day care but I am not sure he would like being dropped off in a strange place.  I think it has been a combo of his adolescent defiance.  He knows he is not supposed to put his paws on the table or try to break in to the toy area so that is what he is just waiting for the opportunity to do.  He is not into kongs and we got a bunch of food puzzles but he solves those super easily.  He likes bully sticks and other natural chews in the evening (ignores nylabones, rubber chews) when he just hangs out with us but we have to mix those up or he gets sick of them.  I am surprised at the backlash on the crate time since that is really what all the books and trainers recommend.  He is used to it so we can safely leave the house to grocery shop or go to doctors appointments.  I think also the dark and bad weather has made it so we spend less time in the yard playing fetch or kicking a ball around.   Think it is frustration with all the negative behaviors we are getting despite the effort.  But obviously the message is more effort, more stimulation, more attention.[/quote]
There are many books and trainers that do not recommend locked crates. [/quote]

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