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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]BTW, it does not matter whether someone has a math background or not, the experts have spoken, EDM stinks.

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Hmm.  That's not what studies reviewed by educators at the US Dept of Ed say ...

http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/interventionreport.aspx?sid=166
http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/interventionreport.aspx?sid=587
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OK. Aye.
ANY curriculum will have a positive effect. That is one of those no brainer questions. If Susie takes a gymnastics (any class) class, she will know MORE gymnastics in the end, thus a POSITIVE effect. If Susie takes a GOOD gymnastic class, she will know more gymnastics than if she takes a poor gymnastics class. Did you notice that the extent of evidence was small positive?
We want good curricula that will teach more![/quote]

You are mistaken.  Several of the programs reviewed show zero effectiveness -- or even negative effectiveness.  You should run your own report screen at http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/findwhatworks.aspx -- I cannot figure out how to print my results page here.  I chose the following parameters: Outcome Domains = Math; Population = General Ed; Extent of Evidence = Small + Med-Large; Program Type = Curriculum.  Everyday Math ranked #8 out of 27 programs using those parameters.  It had a +11 score, while the highest-rated program has +23, and the lowest was -6.  All but one of those top-rated programs show "low" Extent of Evidence, because very few studies meet the research requirements set by Dept of Ed.

I'm sure there are plenty of good math curricula out there, and maybe some better than EDM.  But to say simply that "[i]According to the experts EDM stinks[/i]" is just plain false.[/quote]

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