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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok, so they spread it.  Do we stay in DL for...years?  With the associated learning loss and other repercussions to children, particularly those with special needs?  Do we think a vaccine will save us?[/quote]

You really cannot see what needs to happen, PP?

We choose:

Bars, indoor dining in restaurants, non-essential shopping, non-essential travel, vacations "because we're soooo stir-crazy"
Being maskless "because, freedom"
Sports 
Visiting everyone we want to visit including grandma and grandpa "because they might not be here much longer"
Creating "pods" because "kids have to socialize or they'll just wither and die"

[b]versus[/b]

Schools in person relatively safely
Certain jobs in person relatively safely
Hospitals having adequate capacity and not getting overwhelmed 
Everyone masked everywhere

Now comes the squawking about how "we will collapse the economy!" Yes, parts of it will suffer and some of it will close irreversibly. That's why the political will to shore up the economy is essential.

[b]And here comes the yelling about "My child will grow up with no socialization!" Children are more resilient than many DCUM parents can believe, and many parents also refuse to admit that they are just tired of being responsible for their kids 24/7. [/b]

Those are the trade-offs if you want in-person education (and manageable health care, and a return to the office for some people). We would not have to make these trade-offs now if we had made them seriously and with commitment earlier.

Are you willing to make those sacrifices and not go to Target and Wal-Mart, not go visit grandma for Thanksgiving, etc., in order to truly ensure kids can be in school in person? Our society isn't willing to make those sacrifices [u]even short-term now[/u]. That's why you should learn to embrace DL. Society brought it on itself. [/quote]

[b]PP, I bet you are one of those people who blames the parent if a kid has mental health issues.[/b] Also, keep in mind that the families who made and continue the make the sacrifices you mention in the name of the greater good are the ones with children who are likely suffering as a result of their isolation. Sadly, parental love and attention does not replace much needed social interaction and experiences outside of the home.

-Signed, Involved mom who loves the time at home with her kids but is growing increasingly concerned about her kids with each passing day. [/quote]

Re, the bold: You have some gall to make that kind of nasty assumption. I do not blame the parent if a kid has mental health issues. Real ones. But it see post after post on DCUM where parents are NOT talking about genuine mental health issues (which, YES, can be exacerbated by isolation--I know that, PP). Many parents are only talking about how their kids can't do their sport or whatever and will just wither up. These parents and their whining do a disservice to parents whose children have actual, diagnosed mental and emotional issues. Go over to the special needs forum, PP. Those kids do need to be in school in person -- are you willing to give up freaking nonessential things to help them do so?

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DP.  She was right, you are blaming parents for children's mental health issues.  Huge numbers of children are experiencing anxiety and depression.  It's situational, not caused by parents.

And since it's so widespread, does not belong in the SN Forum.  [/quote]

Thank you PP. Mine was the post the person was responding to, and what is galling to me is dismissing the pain of parents who are watching previously happy and healthy kids slowly deteriorate into shells of their former selves.  I say this as a parent of one child with diagnosed "special needs."  I understand that that means. But that's not the kid I am most worried about now. We are approaching 8 months of kids being forced to give up their lives, and concern about the overall health of kids is no longer hypothetical.  Some of us are doing the right thing every day, not socializing, not traveling, and watching our kids suffer because of it. It hurts like hell. [/quote]

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