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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For 11 years im getting that pup out 3x a day walking in rain, shine, snow. Feeding 2x a day. Giving meds, sitting up all night comforting him through the pain of 3 surgeries. Hes never going to take care of himself. I use vacation time to take him to the vet when my coworkers run out of the office when their kids sneeze. And when the awful day comes and he leaves us, I will have to take another vacation day, then suck it up the rest of the week but Suzie gets bereavement for her grandmother that she hasn't seen or spoken to in 5 years. So if I want to call myself a dog mom I will. Funny thing is my empty nest friends who get dogs are fall right into it. They call them their 2nd..3rd etc child. Just wait.[/quote]

You....actually believe your dog dying could be compared to a human dying? Or a sick dog is on the same level as a sick child??? Completely insane. A dog is an animal. Trust me I have had pets and I have a child and it’s no comparison. [/quote]

And humans aren't animals?

The only reason the value of a human is seen as greater than a dog is because of cultural and social constructs. There is absolutely nothing inherent to the universe that establishes the superiority of humanity over any other species. The value we place on a human over a dog when it's time to mourn is no less arbitrary than the value we place on a dog over a cow when it's time to eat.   [/quote]

So your argument here is that the inherent value of a dogs life is the same as that of a human? Wow wow wow. [/quote]

No, that's the exact opposite of what I'm saying.

I'm saying there is no inherent value in a dog or a human, the only value is that which we personally assign to it.  For me personally, the value of my dog is the same or greater as that of any human except for my wife.  For you it is apparently different, and we are both right because value is meaningless outside of what we perceive it as. [/quote]

Please seek help. [/quote]

Do you know what the trolley problem is?  If not, imagine a trolley speeding towards you. You are standing at the switch that can divert the trolley onto one of two tracks.  On one track, there is your child, on the other track, is a random child that you have never met before. They are both tied to the tracks and there is no way to reach them in time.  You have to choose which way to flip the switch, will the trolley kill your child, or will it kill the other child you don't know.

Now obviously you flip the switch so it spares your child, right?  But why?  The random child is a human just like your child. It has parents that love them every bit as much as you love your own child. If you truly believe all humans have inherent and equal worth, there should be no difference which child you save.  But of course you don't believe they have equal worth because you saved your child over the random one.

But wait, if it was that random child's parents at the switch, they would have saved their child! So clearly that worth can neither be inherent nor equal, otherwise the same decision would be made regardless of which parent was at the switch.  The only possible conclusion is that the value of those lives are subjective, neither inherent nor equal, and if you would choose your own child, you agree with me whether you want to admit it or not.   [/quote]

Yes...a child...You are so close to understanding. So close.
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Is the PP suggesting they would save their dog over a child they didn’t know?? That’s actually crazy. I don’t care if people call themselves “dog moms”, but man after this thread I definitely think there’s something wrong with dog moms. Wow. [/quote]

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