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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1.  If the father refuse to fill the CSS, how universities can figure out the father's income and include such income in financial aid calculation?  I don't think CSS has a legal right to force the father fill the form

2. There is also a even worse situation. [b]The father report his income in CSS and refuse to pay his part later[/b], just for the purpose of revenge the mom because Mom received the court ordered child support for many years, can school agree the waiver next year?   
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OP here. This is what I'm worried about. Not that he's doing it out of revenge, necessarily, he just doesn't care to pay and doesn't care what the consequences are.[/quote]

And that's his prerogative.  But, it is also completely reasonable for schools to not ignore his income in calculating aid.  Otherwise, why wouldn't everyone say they just don't want to pay so that they can get more aid? [/quote]

No child would want to go through what my children have been through to save money. Yes, I think the burden of his high salary shouldn't be mine to fulfill and I should be evaluated based on my income, not his. I raise them. I think colleges should take our family's situation into account and I thought someone on this board might have been there, done that and have advice. Unfortunately "divorced" moms doing absolutely everything for their children without much assistance is not a rare event.[/quote]

Do you really not see how people couldn't game the system if the rule was, as long as one parent didn't want to pay for college, that parent's income wasn't counted?

Parents do not have to pay for their kid's colleges, even if they have the means.  That doesn't mean that those kid's can therefore qualify for aid as if their parent's income didn't exist.  That true whether parents are together or divorced.[/quote]

I really do see, thank you. And I think they can overcome this by considering a student's specific situation. Thanks.[/quote]

How would that work in practice?  Right now it is a fairly automated process based on numbers.

Are you proposing that people would write essays explaining their personal situations?  Someone would then have to evaluate these essays to determine what warranted exceptions.

How would that be done in a fair, uniform manner?  How would they be able to evaluate whether what someone wrote was true?

What specific circumstances do you think would warrant more money?  For example, you mentioned the abuse you went through?  Does that entitle you to more aid?  A parent could be abusive and still be willing to pay for college.  
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People do call up college financial aid offices and explain their situations. Sometimes colleges are able to work with the family. No, I do not propose an essay writing system. I thought it was possible that people on this board have advice on this specific situation.

Thank you also for implying that I think my child being abused means she deserves special treatment. I was saying that it is possible to determine difficult situations and help families out who need help, and recognizing that no one would want to go through those things to get money. But you know that. You are just hoping to hurt another human being.[/quote]

You haven't actually proposed anything.  You can "call up college financial aid offices and explain [your] situation[]."  Maybe they will work with you.  Otherwise, I ask again, what are you proposing and how would it be a feasible system to operate on a broader scale?

You have quite a persecution complex if you think my post was meant to "hurt another human being."  I was merely trying to ascertain what you were proposing and to point out some of the reasons it would be hard to have a fair, functional system whereby schools waived contributions from one parent.

You don't seem to be proposing anything beyond that you think you should get more money because your ex won't pay and is a jerk.[/quote]

Right, because unnecessarily throwing around someone's abusive past is not a hurtful thing. I don't need to satisfy your demand for the proposed financial aid system I want in this country. You are being ridiculous. I am asking for tips, that is all. May you continue to have the good fortune that keeps you so far away from this situation you can't even compassionately consider it.[/quote]

You have no idea about my personal situation -- financial, relationship, or otherwise -- so don't lecture me on my supposed good fortune.

That's absurd to suggest that I threw around your abusive past.  I merely asked how you thought that should be factored into the aid calculation because it was you who said you thought your unique circumstances should be taken into account and you mentioned the abuse.

It is quite clear that you simply want to hear from people who will agree with you and will say the system is unfair and that you should get more aid because your ex won't pay.  That's great if it makes you feel better, but it won't actually help you.[/quote]

I just want to hear from people who are kind. I felt that you weren't. If you have had some bad fortune in your life (most do!), than I am sorry for that experience and I hope people give you grace and compassion. Maybe I misunderstood your perspective and if so, I apologize. I wish you the best.[/quote]

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