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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^stop with the alarmist scare tactics intended to pressure women into panic sex, creep. The fact is most modern marriages, particularly among UMC and UC families, are not for love between two people anyway. They are essentially a structure intended to optimize the raising of children. So most people arent getting married because they are in some Romeo and Juliet mindset- they get married because they realize the person has desirable genes and a good disposition to be a good parent. So it would be ludicrous to get divorced when "the love is over". That's like quitting a job because you got bored or tired. Stupid and not considering of the long game[/quote] Where did I pressure women to have panic sex? Dead wrong! My only statement directed at wives who don't want sex is to get divorced. So you are now going to disagree with me on that? Really? If you want to make the case that a sexless platonic marriage should continue, well guess what I agree! It make practical sense, especially with kids. Just agree with me that platonic room mates have no expectation of fidelity, and I think we are all square. [/quote] I dont agree. That wouldn't be a marriage. We're not animals, and we shouldn't be chained to our basest instincts. As an adult, you should have the self control to last through periods of "I'm not having sex when I want it!" there are plenty of dissatisfactions people have during a marriage, and you have to deal with it as an adult. Trying to pressure a person into sex acts they dont want is never okay, and is very regressive [/quote] A wife is "unsafe" (to the point of not wanting sex).. and you are telling this unsafe wife NOT to divorce? You want this unsafe wife to stay married, not have sex, AND expect her husbands to remain "faithful". Sorry that does not work. You cannot pick and choose the parts of a "marriage" you want to uphold. I will go along with your plan that marriage need not be true-love-with-benefits ONLY IF you agree this relationship cannot be a monogamous one.[/quote] It does work. You are not the judge nor the jury on relationships. What has worked or not worked in your marriage is largely irrelevant, other than explaining your indignance. What you will "go along with" doesn't matter to a single soul on this planet other than perhaps your wife who I assume has already cut you off [/quote] You seem incapable of making any logical argument. 1) I repeatedly tell wives who don't want sex to NOT have sex... yet you keep accusing me of the opposite 2) You claim wives don't want sex because they feel unsafe and their husbands are lazy ass entitled losers... yet you protest my guidance to divorce that unsafe lazy ass loser husband 3) You happily redefine marriage not as "lovers" but as a practical structure to raise kids.... yet you screech about "sanctity of MARRIAGE" when I essentially agree with everything you said MINUS exclusivity 4) You tell one side to "just deal with dissatisfaction in a sexless marriage" yet call me indignant to ask the wife to "just deal with non-monogamy"[/quote] 1) The "either have sex or I'll leave/have an affair" thing is clearly a manipulation tactic. Sorry, you're not fooling anyone. 2) Wives don't want sex for a variety of reasons. Doesn't really matter why. 3) Yep... and lots of experts have agreed with me. Welcome to the modern era. And there's also a long history of this attitude throughout the centuries. 4) Yes... because monogamy is considered an integral part of marriage. Stepping outside of the marriage bonds transforms it into something else. Whereas sexlessness is considered par for the course in most marriages (and in fact widely jokes about/acknowledged) Sorry no one will sleep with you. But arguing on DCUM wont make your sad life any happier.[/quote]
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