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If only admissions officers had a way to know who the good students are without needing a test score... something like knowledge of the schools and the trustworthiness of the guidance recommendations, plus their instincts, which would come with the many years of organizational and personal experience that clearly none of them have...

...oh well, I guess they are now doomed to admit entire classes of unworthy idiots while the truly worthy are denied!

/endsarcasm[/quote]
You clearly don't know anything about schools in CA to make this statement.

Yes, they know which are "high achieving" schools. And they are mostly white/Asian.

" trustworthiness of the guidance recommendations" - as if guidance recommendations don't have bias.

"instincts" - as if that person who is reviewing the applications don't have any bias

Yes, if they do away with any type of measurable test scores, then what you will see is either more unqualified students attending or less URM being admitted.  Look at what happened after Prop 209.[/quote]

One at a time:

[i]You clearly don't know anything about schools in CA to make this statement. [/i]

My point was that admissions officer DO.

[i]Yes, they know which are "high achieving" schools. And they are mostly white/Asian.  [/i]

Thanks for agreeing with me.

[i]" trustworthiness of the guidance recommendations" - as if guidance recommendations don't have bias.[/i]

EVERYTHING has bias.  Adcoms know who can be trusted and they have data to show which kids from which HS do well at their campus upon which to base this.  You act like it is a white box each year.  It isn't.

[i]"instincts" - as if that person who is reviewing the applications don't have any bias[/i]

OF COURSE they have bias.  It's called their objectives in building a class, it is how it is done, and it is impossible to do any other way.  Think of the silliness of your objection: "Can you believe the person making the choice has [i]preferences and objectives[/i]?  The nerve![/quote]

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