Reply to Completely polarized politically

Forum Index » Relationship Discussion (non-explicit)

Reply to "Completely polarized politically - can we last?"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a tough one.

I am moderate and terrified by what I see from the progressive left and Trump right.  My best friend is all MAGA and it's hard not to lump him in with the white nationalists and authoritarians who are Trumps biggest base of support.  But also, I try to see it from his side:  he is law enforcement and feels like Trump and Trumpism is the only one who will stand up for him.  And he has a point.

That being said, my dad is also deep down the Fox News rabbit hole of conspiracy theories.  I keep him at arm's length and I have lost respect for him.  It's much easier to distance from your parent than your spouse.  I don't have sex with him.
[/quote]

Please explain exactly what is "terrifying" about progressives.[/quote]

Mobbing people who are sitting outside and demanding they conform with their political agenda.  Gathering on-line petitions to cancel college professors that do not conform to strict anti-racism ideology.  Firing NYT editors for publishing editorials from a sitting US senator whose opinion is supported by a majority of the population.  Supporting campus tribunals that deny due process to students accused of sexual assault.

I can give countless examples, but a general chilling of free speech and due process that is absolutely essential to democratic ideals.[/quote]

huh, what democratic and constitutional ideals does sending in the army to take over state law enforcement against their will with the goal of crushing protest serve?

this PP is an object lesson of what OP is dealing with. The crazed twisting and exaggeration of facts, while ignoring what Trump is actually doing. It’s actually not hard to day “hey, I don’t think intimidating civilians in the name of protest is a good thing. I also don’t think the military should be sent in to address state law enforcement matters.”[/quote]

PP you are responding to, I am a registered democrat and virulently anti-Trump.  You are exactly the problem with the left these days, anything other than total submission to anti-racist ideology is akin to Trump loving nationalism.  You are too blinded by leftist rage to see that the vast, vast majority of the country recoils in horror at progressive dogma, but you are being saved from seeing this because a huge portion of those people, including myself, see Trump as the more immediate threat.[/quote]

objecting to sending the military in over the objections of states is not “progressive dogma.” most of the examples you listed there are culture war bugaboos you see every day on fox (“campus leftists gone mad!”). forgive me for getting the impression that you yourself lack the clear vision you claim to have. pro tip: people who are actually sane and reality-focused don’t talk about “progressive dogma” and “leftist rage” the way you do. [/quote]

What you describe as cultural war bugaboos that only people on fox believe, is actually a genuine fear that liberals have of leftists.  This today in The Atlantic is one of many examples.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/academics-are-really-really-worried-about-their-freedom/615724/

trust me, a lot of like minded liberals like me fear the progressives as much as we fear Trump.  One is in the White House, thus the immediate need to vote out trump[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics