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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm dealing with this push back against family values with my 14 y.o. DS, too. Though with him its more with the issues of economic inequality and racism - one minute he sounds like a liberal and the next a conservative! I think its just what they have to do to become the independent people that they will become. Instead of arguing with him, I've found it better to gently remind him of what facts he may be missing. Staying calm and trying to have a discussion is key.[/quote]

Op here. This has been my situation exactly. I thought we were having good discussions until I realized he has this other persona online. Our discussions aren’t enough to counter the content he is receiving online. I have got to figure out how to get him away from that. I just don’t know how to do this without making things worse. I’m afraid he will see me as a woman trying to control a man and make him double down on these views. [/quote]

Different poster here. My son takes the position that you can both support police and try to end racism and systemic inequities. But his liberal friends tear him apart for this. Because, #ACAB. So he’s turned to conservative friends for support. And unfortunately there is more messaging going on than pro police. There is a lot of this misogynistic, racist talk.

I’m not trashing liberals. I am liberal. I’m trashing the all-or-nothing mentality out there. Life is complicated. Problems are complicated. Solutions are even more complicated. But few in social media get that. [/quote]

This. It often shocks people that I am a black liberal who is not anti police, who doesn't want to abolish the police all together.   There's a lot we have to be all or nothing about nowadays, racism and  sexism being two of those things, but in addressing those issue we have to be careful we don't leave room for those with toxic ideologies to draw our kids in with sweet words because our kids express frustration with something anf we shut them down for fear they might be racist  or sexist.

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No one wants to "abolish the police altogether." Jesus. [/quote]

Not the black liberal poster but the one whose son has turned to conservative friends.

Think about teens. They see things as all or nothing. They are holier than thou. Right? So yes, there are TONS of teens right now saying abolish the police, that black police are part of the problem (they choose to work for a racist system, ACAB (all cops are bad).  And so the message “Defund the Police” to teens? It absolutely means abolish the police.   Tik Tok spurs this on, using its selective algorithms to fill more of their scenes with more of what they’ve already viewed. And guess what? Folks who make TikTok videos aren’t trying to be rational. They are trying to get views and likes. So their stuff is very over the top. Happy when cops die ACAB, and so on. I have the screen shots to prove it. It’s NOT reality but that’s what these kids see over and over and over.

Do NOT make the mistake of seeing your teens’ political experience through adult eyes. [/quote]

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