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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who goes to these prep classes?

- Highest performing exceptional students who have been working hard since elementary school
- Parents are both STEM educated, well off, immigrants who come from cultures that value education over all else.
- Can afford these classes either because HHI is high or because they live frugally and save for education. 
- Kids who have all their lives socialized with kids who come to these classes.  This amount of hard work (4-6 hours every day) is normal for them.

This is a highly self-selected group. 25% get in and 75% does not. Try getting your typical American kid to sit down and study for 6-8 hours each and every day during the whole summer break or during the pandemic. It will not happen.

This is not a replicable model because no average American kid is willing to put in this much time and hard work, no average American family wants to devote so much time, effort or energy into living frugally, helping their child study, and spending their life around their kids education.

Seriously, most of us could not handle a toilet paper shortage. We should leave this alone.

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And all of that is fine, but it shouldn't help kids get into TJ. Or into AAP. Or into elite universities.

That level of obsession is not healthy for kids of that age. To extend the baseball metaphor, it's like being okay with steroids. People shouldn't have to risk their health and well-being in order to compete on a baseball diamond. Train, sure. Study, sure. But to that extent, and to require that much of a resource in order to do it? That's just wrong.

Kids should be able to have a life, discover what they enjoy, have friends, and still have just as good a chance to get into TJ as anyone else as long as they have the horsepower and desire to learn.[/quote]

Of course, you are correct. So you should do all of that for your children.  Why are you worried about the mental health of the children you don't care about? You do you, honey! Are you feeling superior that your kids are having "normal" life? Well, Bless your heart.

The worse that these parents are doing are sending their kids to study. They are not grooming them to take off their clothes and go on Instagram? Like Lori Loughlin? Or like Trump paying someone to take his SAT?    These are hard working students.  They are not aspiring to go to Liberty University and become pool boys. [/quote]

Wow, talk about out of touch. I'm worried about the access to TJ of kids who should not have to put themselves through this nonsense in order to have a level shot at getting in.

TJ also shouldn't be a place where students feel they have to study 5-6 hours per day in order to keep up, but that's another conversation.

I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people. The Varsity Blues scandal is bad. Everything about Trump is terrible. This Indian TJ prep scandal is bad, and it needs to be getting more attention. The fact that it's not technically cheating is an ENORMOUS flaw in the process.[/quote]

There is no TJ prep scandal.

If this prep company got hold of the test (which I doubt) then call the FBI and find out who gave them the test. Else, STFU. Your privilege is showing. You only want White rich kids to have a chance and when Asian-Americans sacrifice their childhoods and work hard to climb the rungs of the education and career ladder you think that there is a scandal?  Then you all say it is unhealthy?  I find very few Asian American kids being derailed in their lives.  If they are deeply unhappy because they are studying hard then tough luck! Their options are to not be successful and then be shot and murdered like Blacks or Latino by White people.  I hope that the whole BLM and police brutality has shown Asian-American kids that this is not a country where you can by poor and have a life. The only way up is through hard work. You are not the children of Trump that you will be rich even when you are stupid. [/quote]

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