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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Man this thread brought out all the defensive alcoholic fathers who don’t see their kids. Ignore these fools OP. My father is an alcoholic and I am forever grateful for my stable mother. When I was a teen and they divorced I didn’t want to see my dad not because my mom manipulated me into it but because he was a drunk!! What teen or kid wants to spend time with a drunk father??? This is not something that needs to be pushed and I am so grateful my mom didn’t push it. [/quote]

Yes exactly, I don’t want to push anything.  He knows what he needs to do, and the kids know.  If they ask to see him and it works out then I am willing to facilitate them seeing each other under strict conditions like no over nights, I wait in the car or close by Incase they need me.  They have phones so they can text or call if there’s an emergency.  But no way am I encouraging them to spend time w him if they don’t want to.  Right now they do, I think partially bc he guilts them into it every now and then, I think soon they won’t care unless he makes some drastic changes.  [/quote]

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