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[quote=Anonymous][quote=TheManWithAUsername][quote=Anonymous]As for the men who "wish" that they could SAH or who think their wives are "lucky", I will believe that when men actually start taking advantage of paternity leave and bucking the trend.[/quote]
You're switching the argument again. What started this was you criticizing women who consider themselves lucky. Whether their men or you or anyone else considers them lucky is a completely different question.

It's not for you - fine. I would be just as eager to defend you against a SAHM saying that you were too stupid to realize your misfortune.

BTW, my wife works, and she's sure that she would be miserable as a SAHM. If we could do it over again, though, we'd probably have me stay at home, at least until full-day school. I'd have no problem with that.

Re the other stuff with which you challenge men, that's just a bunch of generalizing. There are men who work for women's rights and for family friendly policies.

In any case, a lack of support for families isn't sexism. It's still a choice whether to have kids. If you don't want the career impact of having kids, don't have them or arrange beforehand for your mate to lead in childcare.[/quote]

I didn't switch the argument. I was responding to 22:38 who claimed that "working" (presumably outside the home in a paid job) sucks.

As for what you mean by "generalizing," I don't know what you mean. I stated my opinion of what I would like to see.  I work in a male-dominated field, I can only name ONE man I know personally who took full advantage of stated paternity leave policy. I can name at least a dozen women, OTOH, who took full advantage of parental leave policies, and a half-dozen who quit their careers altogether.

Lack of support for families is sexism. Because the vast majority of people who end up giving up health insurance, retirement savings, and income to take care of children while they are young are WOMEN. Men have long been able to maintain their careers while having children, but women still struggle with this. Why do you think this is?!?[/quote]

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