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[quote=Anonymous]PP posting again. I found some info, but nothing confirming the folk wisdom about NoVa applicants to UVa. In fact, what I've found really refutes it. [quote]Every admission officer I know bristles at the mention of the word "quota". Maybe we hate it because it implies that we don't have control over our processes and that we are slaves to demographics while we read applications. During every Q&A session, every College Night panel, and every phone call, I think we all brace ourselves for that word, which usually comes in [u]a sentence that starts with "We heard that UVa..." and ends with the name of a county or a region.[/u] We don't have quotas that specific here. We have one ratio. The State Legislature has set a ratio that governs the in state and out of state populations at UVa. Two thirds of our students must have Virginia residency. Therefore, one third can come from outside of the state. [u]Beyond that, no population rules are enforced on us.[/u] Obviously, most admission offices want to bring in an interesting class that has people from many backgrounds, but we have not been handed target numbers for different regions, counties, or populations beyond that 2/3 : 1/3 ratio. There are definitely trends within the admitted group, though. For example, [u]around one third of our Virginia population tends to come from the northern part of the state, but that area is highly populated and makes up a pretty big part of our applicant pool. There's no target for that region or any other.[/u] State legislators propose bills to change the ratio almost every year, but the bills fail each year. UVa admissions dean's blog: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2010/03/lets-talk-about-ratios-quotas-and-admit.html [/quote] I also found this on the blog .... [quote]dadofapp said... Is there any information in the Website, or can you tell me, what the SAT/ACT averages are or any other criteria that distinguish between in-state and out-of-state UVA applicants. There is always the line that it is harder to get in from out of state, but I would like to know what the differences really are. Response: I talked about this a little bit yesterday. [u]We don't have minimums or different bars for the different pools.[/u] While we could generate stats for the different groups, I fear that publishing them would lead people to assume that we read with minimum numbers in our minds, which we don't do. If you want to poke around and look at statistics, the Office of Institutional Assessment is the place for you. There are more statistics on their website they you'll ever want![/quote] Out of curiosity, I compared the percentages of admitted undergrads against the percentages of people living in NoVa. Here are the results .... 32% of Virginia's population lives in Northern Virginia 42% of UVa's admission class in 2008 was from Northern Virginia 13.5% if Virginia's population lives in Fairfax County 25.6% of UVa's admission class in 2008 was from Fairfax County I'm not sure these statistics necessarily prove anything about what the admissions standards are for NoVa applicants. But they do seem consistent with the Dean's claim that there are no regional quotas for admissions. Maybe someone else has something to add.[/quote]
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