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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In general I think the test should not be "was this person a slaveholder" and more "why do we remember/commemorate this person?"

In the case of confederate statues, it's almost always the case that the statues were put up decades after the war during a violent terrorist campaign to claw back the rights and freedoms that black people had gained in the war all across the South. That was the intention behind the statues and behind naming so many things after confederates.

[b]Washington, on the other hand, is commemorated more for leading the army in the Revolution and for being the first President. [/b]

Someone like Jefferson imo is on the line because we remember him for the Declaration, etc, but his life is also the embodiment of the hypocrisy that was baked in, or at least the gap between our ideals and our reality.

I'd be open to a discussion about it and from hearing from people who think it should be changed but I do think it's important to consider each case on its merits. [/quote]

Than for being a slaveholder? Yes, hmmm, I think that's probably true...  :shock:  :roll:  :D [/quote]

I am solidly on the side of BLM. I think the confederate flag should not fly, and statues of confederate heroes should be removed. But this erasing of every historical figure this country has is getting INSANE and is not going to uplift people of color, nor the cause of BLM in the long run. It simply add fuel and ammunition to the crazy far right Fox News loving racists and further entrenches their beliefs and rhetoric. You seriously want to undermine George Washington? Sure, add to the narrative that he held slave. It was wrong and should be acknowledged. It does not ERASE the fact that he was a founding father of this country and NONE of us would be American's without him. [/quote]
It’s a steep, slippery slope and we’re already in it.

Omitting history in k-12, revising history, focusing on narrow perspectives instead of broad accomplishments and philosophies.

Plus there is no end game here. Even if you blank slate all of US history, what is left? Still a bunch of angry people whose goal is to be an activist all three time. Same as mass media, goal is to create controversy all the time.

It’s not even clear to me that BLM wants there to be less crime, less children out of wedlock, less drug use, less HS drop outs.  Take away any reason for personal responsibility and you have a very weak society. And the productive and motivated will leave. As they leave every country that goes down the tubes.[/quote]

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