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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read his account on IG and quite frankly I admire his bravery. It has to be extraordinary daunting to come out as an atheist when you have built up a huge base of supporters who follow and support you strictly for your Christianity. [/quote]
I've read this about his bravery and courage, too, but I don't see it. He explicitly says he felt it was a good time to drop this bomb on his fan base because they were no longer making any records or touring, i.e., no longer making money. Seems more like a coward to me. Now that his fans are no longer making any money, he probably has his eyes on a different crowd to make money from.

I was amused by his statement, "I hope this isn't the end of the conversation, but the beginning," but then later said, "I don't want a debate." He asks questions -- which are trite and superficial and have actual theological responses -- but doesn't want any answers.

This guy was never a Christian. Christians don't renounce their faith (1 John 2:19). He's been duping people for profit his entire professional career. By his own admission, he didn't like praying, didn't like going to church and didn't like reading the Bible. Christians like doing these things. He pretended because it brought him a certain amount of adulation and money and because he wanted to be a rock star.

As a Christian, this thing makes me angry. I hope he actually finds the LORD, but he has never been a believer, and now he wants to be held up as some kind of wise, enlightened post-Christian who can critique the faith. He has nothing to offer in this regard. He's a poser and a coward.[/quote]

Thank you for that analysis. It was very Christ-like.[/quote]
Your sarcasm is noted, but it's also misplaced. There's nothing un-Christlike about criticizing someone like Jon Steingard. The Bible doesn't have anything good to say about false preachers like this, either.

Steingard's Instagram post is self-centered and self-serving. He admits he's been exploiting actual Christians for personal gain for quite awhile now. And instead of just quitting it, he uses his platform as a means to deliver a sermon of apostasy to the very people who have supported him for years. It's nothing but a big eff you aimed directly at people he apparently holds in contempt. He's been pretending he's something he's not, and, oh, look at that, he made money and fame doing it.

And he thinks he's being [i]honest[/i]? I'm sure he's enjoying all the new adulation for his supposed bravery and honesty. He's so refreshing.

This is nauseating. In addition to poser and coward, I'll add opportunist. What a joke.
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Has it occurred to you that he didn't go from Christian to non-believer overnight?  That he had doubts, as many Christians do, for a long time before finally realizing that the doubts had turned to disbelief?  That he fought his doubts, as Christians are taught to do, until he lost the battle against them? [/quote]
That's irrelevant. My problem with this isn't that he had his doubts; my problem is that [i]while[/i] he was thinking he didn't believe, [i]while[/i] he didn't like going to church and reading the Bible, he still maintained a false Christian persona because it brought him the things he wanted. And my huge problem with him is that once he decided in his heart there is no God, he then attacked those people who gave him everything he had with those doubts. That stupid "no sweater needed" at the end of his long, self-serving post was a big, smarmy middle finger to all the Christians who liked the music he was mendaciously singing to them for however many years. And I'm sure he's eating up all the "You're so brave. You're so honest" responses he's been getting from other non-believers, because it validates their own rejection of Christianity. He's the furthest thing from honest, and he's an opportunist, not brave.[/quote]

For most people who go through faith conversions, it’s a process. Usually a complicated process. One doesn’t lose their qualification as a Christian if they have doubts or don’t enjoy going to church.

Who really thinks that an unexamined, unquestioned faith is a stronger one? Doubts don’t make a person a false Christian.[/quote]
I'm not sure what you mean. He didn't lose his qualification as a Christian because he had doubts. He lost his qualification as a Christian because he doesn't believe in God. And the Bible itself says that once you put your faith in Christ, God Himself will root and establish you in your faith and keep you close to Him, even when you doubt. If you reject that faith, it means you never actually had it (again, read 1 John 2:19). Yes, pretty much all Christians have times when they question what's going on, but if you are an actual believer, there are mature ways to seek answers to those questions, and the LORD will keep you through them. But if you reject Him entirely, you're not willing to learn. Read Steingard's Instagram post: His questions weren't questions -- they were his own answers in themselves. He presented the questions themselves as their own evidence for his disbelief. Steingard wasn't going through a "faith conversion." He was going through a faith denial, and that he felt a need to use the platform that Christians gave him to sow seeds of doubt and distrust among them says all you need to know about where his heart is.[/quote]

Agree to disagree. [/quote]

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