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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^  OP here and, sorry, but I disagree with the two previous PPs. Adult women listening to rap is one thing - you do you. It's not my cup of tea, but whatever.

It's very different when 15 year old boys, who have no life experience, no perspective, no frame of reference about women, no real experience in dealing with racism, etc etc, are enamored with this music that [b]glorifies violence, misogyny and racism[/b]. Another PP mentioned the importance of making sure that he knows it's only "art," and that the message is to stop when he turns the music off.

I think that's a hell of a lot to expect from kids. [/quote]

Um, are your kids listening to some kind of alt-right hip hop?   Because if not and you are talking about black artists using the n-word in their lyrics, that's not racism.  If you think it is, then I think you don't know many black teenagers.  I'm no authority, but in my limited experience as a middle aged white Jew (but parent of a kid that's in a majority black school and whose friends are mostly black), it seems like black young people using the n-word is about identity and unity and standing up to racism.

It's not really a good analogy, but growing up in the south, my Jewish friends and I would use certain particularly ridiculous epithets for Jews toward each other, but we would fight any non-Jew that said something overtly anti-Semitic.  It was a way of sharing some unity in an environment where anti-Semitism was pretty common and considered acceptable.

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I'm the 41yo PP who grew up listening to rap.  I'm also AA, and agree with this characterization.  Using the "n" word [i]when I was a[/i] teen is more about members of an oppressed group taking a racial epithet and turning it on its head in order to regain some control over it, imo.  I think some gay men have done this with the "f" word.

OP, the PP who talks about differentiating your family's values from that of the music is onto something.  I think it's more of a danger for poor kids in SE than middle/UMC white kids, for whom the differentiation is probably a lot easier.  Your kids will be fine; just keep the dialogue going and show that you're at least partly open to discussing the music--what does he like about it?  Is it the beat?  Which is his favorite?  What does he think about the lyrics?  Which does he think you might like?  Etc.[/quote]

PP again.  Just clarifying in italics.[/quote]

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