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Yep. The freedom run red lights.

The freedom to blow through stop signs.

The freedom to go the wrong way against traffic.

The freedom to knock over pedestrians in crosswalks who are crossing with the light.

The freedom to smash vehicles with your bike lock if they get within arm's reach.

The freedom to ride on the sidewalk, weaving between walkers, scaring them out of your way.

The freedom to trap everyone else on the road behind you as you take the lane going uphill.

The freedom not to bound by any traffic laws whatsoever, yet still call yourself a victim when you wind up under a car because you entered an intersection from a redlight at 20 mph.

Yep, bikes are the ultimate freedom. From accountability.

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People do all of these things while driving cars (except smashing vehicles with their bike lock, obviously; they use their cars instead), and when they do these things, they kill people.

I wish that everyone went everywhere responsibly, whether they're walking, biking, or driving. But people have the greatest responsibility - and the greatest need for accountability - when they are driving, because irresponsible behavior while driving kills people.[/quote]

Except that very few car drivers actually do any of the above; whereas, a lot (if not most) of bicyclists do.  Exception vs the rule.[/quote]

I can’t count the number of times I have seen drivers unexpectedly run red lights while I’m on a bike sitting there waiting for it to change. I’ve also had drivers deliberately swerve near me (and one garbage truck swing its door open as it passed me, in what seemed like an attempt to knock me down) for having the audacity to ... be on a bike near them. I’ve also been hit by an Uber in a bike lane, because the driver “didn’t see me,” and obviously, I see cars roll through stop signs daily, no matter what mode of transportation I’m using. Oh, and speed limits appear to be mostly optional.

If you’re trying to argue that obeying the law is standard for drivers but unusual for cyclists, how do you account for all that?[/quote]

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