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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Something like 40-45% of kids fail out of college, and half that do finish take extra years to earn an easy BA. It’s quite predictable to access who is ready for university - e.g., college track courses, good AP scores, a “college ready” SAT/ACT score.

Outside of the top 50 universities,[b] the rest of the colleges in the US are basically degree mills who admit anyone with a pulse and access to funding. Don’t conflate acceptance with actual capacity to succeed. They want money above all.[/b][/quote]

This post seems unnecessarily mean.

Many of the "normal kids" described in this thread do try their best, but may not have the aptitude of the top students.  It is still OK for them to go to college.

All decent jobs in this economy require at least a college degree.  Some of the jobs are not really that taxing, or use skills that are not necessarily correlated with getting an A in math, and can be done by kids of average aptitude.

To have a chance for those jobs, these kids need a college degree.  There is a place in this world for these no-name colleges that you so deride as degree mills.

We have the savings to be full pay at a college for our average student, and we plan to support him however he needs it to get a degree.  After he graduates, he'll do a great job in the workplace for some employer because he's smart, funny, hard-working, responsible, and even good-looking.    [/quote]

I think there's one poster who keeps pushing this narrative on this forum.  Look at the career outcomes of any school, look at median salary at age 30 for career trajectory.  There's actually a lot less variation by college than you might think (the far bigger variations come from major and location).[/quote]

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