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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP here - Absolutely, the Boston Irish have problems with racism.  Witness busing in the 70s and many problems since.  Many of my cousins support Trump and his anti-Hispanic policies and statements, forgetting that we faced similar discrimination 2-3 generations back before sending our kids to elite schools and joining various golf clubs, moving into WASP neighborhoods, etc.  Trump's policies are anti just about everyone - I single out the comments he has made about Hispanics as one example.

My point is that if you grew up in the old New England culture, WASPs ran that day.  And they did that off the backs of a lot of different people - and a lot of the money they made came from slavery.  This - among many other reasons - is why glorifying them is gross to me.  I've seen people embrace the clubs and habits as if they have arrived - so my question is what legacy are you claiming?  what are you arriving to?

Many of these (mostly white) people from non-WASP backgrounds joining the clubs just perpetuate the same BS.  Go up to Gibson Island and see.
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The heroine of Gone With the Wind, Scarlett O'Hara, was from a slaveholding Irish American family. The book may have been fiction. But it was the most wildly popular antebellum fiction and the author based the character and much of the story on her own Irish American plantation owners in Georgia....

The richest family in 18th century Maryland, the Carrolls, were major slaveholders. And Irish Catholic.

Just pointing this out. Trying to somehow castigate the mill owners of pre 1860s New England as morally bad or flawed for using cotton raised by slaves is stretching it, as virtually all Americans wore cotton clothes from those mills, including abolitionists. As did Europeans who imported the cotton from the US. So your Irish American ancestors are just as guilty as their WASP employers. As are the English mill workers and French mill workers and German mill workers. And besides,  look at your own modern wardrobe. How much of it is made from sweatshop labor in Bangladesh or China? Hmm?[/quote]

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