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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If cyclists would simply do THREE things, I would happily cede them a dedicated lane everywhere:

1) stop at red lights and wait until green to proceed, just like cars do.

[b]2) stop at stop signs. [/b]

3) don’t shoal through traffic (that’s where traffic is temporarily caught behind a slow biker, gets an opportunity to pass the biker, does so, and then at the next red light, the biker weaves through the line of stopped cars to the front of the line, and runs the red light, forcing everyone formerly trapped behind them to be trapped yet again, over and over. This has the effect of slowing ALL traffic on the road down to the speed of the biker.)

If they’d quit doing those three things, people would stop hating them. [/quote]
Honk at them. Every time. Scares the crap out of them but gets their attention.[/quote]
Honking like at is illegal. So you are advocating for people to do illegal things.

Brilliant.[/quote]
Nope. It is 100% legal to honk at someone as a reasonable warning. Running a stop sign and endangering other will 100% qualify as a reasonable warning.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title46.2/chapter10/section46.2-1060/[/quote]

No. Because (1) don't be a jerk and (2) doing things to scare the crap out of people is not a reasonable warning.

[i]It shall further be unlawful for any person at any time to use a horn otherwise than as a reasonable warning or to make any unnecessary or unreasonably loud or harsh sound by means of a horn or other warning device.[/i][/quote]
You are still incorrect. It is 100% legal to honk at someone blowing through a stop.[b] It is a reasonable action to honk to warn them and others of their dangerous act.[/b] You can pretend otherwise and worry about the poor feelings of the sacred biker. That still will not make it illegal to honk at someone running a stop sign. [/quote]
If you were driving EB, say, with the right of way, and were about to hit a NB cyclist starting to run the stop sign, it might be legal to honk at them.

If you are a NB driver, and see a NB cyclist about to start running a stop sign, that would not be warning and would not be legal.

If you were an EB driver, and were stopped, and there was no danger of a collision with say, a NB cyclist, but you were just honking because you saw them violating the law, that would certainly not be legal. In that case their illegal act is not actually dangerous.

If you disagree, try driving at 25MPH in a 25MPH zone, and honking every time a car passes you.   
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Wow you have a lot of free time.[/quote]

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