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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] What's leftist to you is centrist to me, OP. I'm from Europe, where most countries have decent parental leave, subsidized daycares and health care systems that don't fleece patients and the nation. The US Democratic Party is centrist compared to the multiple Left-wing parties in Europe.[/quote] [b]Another European here, and couldn't disagree more. US Dems have become a far left party[/b], with a radical quasi-communist platform focused on identity politics and hate for "western" values. Back to OP's question -- many of your neighbors work in DC yet they choose to live up in MD...they feel guilty about it so they have to show how cool and progressive they are via some cheap rethoric.[/quote] Where are you from, Hungary?[/quote] Nope, not even close. Where are you from, the USSR?[/quote] OK, then please tell us where, because I don't know of any country in Europe where the US Democratic Party would qualify as "far left."[/quote] Again, I think the US Democratic Party is more centrist on economic issues than European parties, although that is starting to change (thankfully). Universal healthcare is a given in Europe, even though it takes various forms, and there is generally more appreciation of a welfare state and worker protections (family leave, vacations, etc). But I do think Americans are more socially liberal. Yes, there is the actual racist/sexist/homophobic constituency on the Right, and of course the evangelicals, but the move toward LGBT equality over the last 20 years or so has been commendable. You see a LOT more normalized homophobia in Europe, even Western Europe. And you really don't see the kind of uber political correctness like you see among the "woke" wing of the US Democrats. The US is far from perfect, of course, but being completely honest you'd be hard-pressed to find a more culturally tolerant society elsewhere, besides maybe Canada. [/quote] If that's even half true, why the constant whining? Signed, European[/quote] I'm a DP from the person you were arguing with before about whether or not the Democrats are far left vis a vis Europe. I'm the PP who said before that European Labour parties are more economically left. I used to live in Europe. Anyways, regarding whining, I do think that **some** American liberal Democrats lose perspective about where the rest of the world is on social issues. YES there are racists and sexists in America and it can be tough to be black and gay or trans in rural Alabama. But the hair splitting over gender pronouns or cultural appropriation is not a thing in Europe. And sometimes I think "woke" progressives need to draw the line when it comes to being tolerant and cultural relativism in order to not welcome inherently illiberal ideas. That's an issue in Europe, for example, if a fundamentalist Muslim population settles in Denmark, they need to learn Danish law and conventions and behavior towards women and not assume they can live by the values of the old country. Sometimes you have to be somewhat politically incorrect to be liberal, and realize it's not the same as being racist. But I digress. Maryland is just liberal. MoCo and PG have a very diverse and educated population with a lot of federal employees, scientists, and nonprofit professionals. Gun-waving, Bible-thumping evangelicals don't flock to these professions.[/quote]
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