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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is the problem with red flag laws. How do you define mental illness? And who is making this judgement call? Civil rights? What are the checks and balances? You cant just go around arbitrarily plucking out people whom you deem are crazy....and if that was the case 2/3 of people posting in dcum would be committed.[/quote] Courts do this, all the time. There's a mental health court located right inside Bellevue in NYC. [/quote] But a "mental" person has to commit a crime first or be a threat to himself or others. If we are talking about the ubiquitous homeless folks, odd ball neighbors, and the like than there is no way to get them committed and if the streets pre-emptively.[/quote] Well that's ok with me, because I don't think "ubiquitous homeless folks" and "odd ball neighbors" should be deprived of their liberty! Our laws are fine. What we need is more resources to identify the people who need more support, including legal intervention and institutionalization (or court-mandated outpatient treatment). [/quote] hallucinatory schizophrenia where the sufferer hears voices and perceives threats seems to be a theme with these crimes... and then the articles in the grisly aftermath mention how the family sought to have their loved ones treated for years but ran into Americas unhelpful "you do you" mental health laws. They're out of whack when we've had three violent mental health related deaths in the past weeks in our pretty small city, two randomized, fatal stabbings and one in which an aggressive mentally ill homeless person was found viciously slain through beating and head wounds. [/quote] Get K2 and PCP off our streets and the death count will go down, as will cases of first episode psychosis and schizophrenia. [/quote] That's definitely a part of the spike, but the some of the above mentioned had long histories of instability. Funny how we have decriminalized drugs and stopped involuntary commitment, but we haven't upped treatment. So when the mentally unstable has some PCP its the perfect storm. [/quote]
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