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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What were the rest of the times, OP? 
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For the 10 yo, she started at 1:05 for backstroke and ended at 1:02. For freestyle, she started at 1:01 and ended at 58 seconds.

For the 8 yo, she started at 32 seconds for freestyle and ended at 28 seconds.

They are both athletic and do well at other sports (soccer, basketball, gymnastics). [/quote]

I think that's a decent improvement in freestyle. Some swimmers of the same age at our team have times close to that. 
For new swimmers technique makes a big difference and on our team they don't get a lot of help with that. My DS improved his times when he got private lessons to help with technique.[/quote]

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Both very respectable times for 10 and 8. For the 10 year old it's the turn that is difficult to learn in one summer. I have a year round swimmer who still loses a lot of time on the turns.[/quote]

I doubt a 10 yo brand new to swim team is working on flip turns. [/quote]

Of course they are. our swim team always works on turns. This includes kids who already know how to do flip turns and those who are new. Is it top notch instruction and broken down like year round program would do, no, but they do work on it some. When your's swimming 50s in summer swim races are often won and lost on turns.

OP, I would have expected more improvement for new swimmers over the course of the summer, but that doesn't always happen. Team are big and individual instruction is hard to give. Summer swim teams to be a lot more about conditioning that super focused on technique. Kids are also often very inconsistent at this age. One of my kids got slower in fly this summer because his technique turned to crap. Our winter swim program openly says they spend the first month back correcting all the bad habits that kids pick up over the summer. [/quote]

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